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watch it: “Hitler Finds Out Sarah Palin Resigns”

Oh, everyone loves having fun with this clip from Downfall. Better watch it fast, before it gets pulled from YouTube, like the excellent Torchwood version did:



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  • doa766

    if it wasn’t because I’ve seen it happen I wouldn’t believe it if someone told me that there’re people alive stupid enough to think she would be a good veep or prez

    it’s like what happens with Steven Colbert, if it wasn’t because it really happened I wouldn’t believe that there’re people stupid enough to think he’s serious

    it kinda of makes me wonder about the election system, if it really works when it’s cristal clear that such a large portion of the voters couldn’t see that she wasn’t qualify for the job

    I think there’re should be some sort of IQ test combined with questions about history and politics that you need to pass before you can vote

  • Jim Mann

    What movie is that clip from? It’s the same clip was used for the very funny bit of Hitler reacting to the Torchwood season 2 finale.

    Jim

  • But jokes connecting Republicans and Nazis are so 1971…

  • Jim Mann (Tue Jul 07 09, 7:07PM):

    What movie is that clip from? It’s the same clip was used for the very funny bit of Hitler reacting to the Torchwood season 2 finale.

    MaryAnn (Tue Jul 07 09, 5:37PM):

    Oh, everyone loves having fun with this clip from Downfall. Better watch it fast, before it gets pulled from YouTube, like the excellent Torchwood version did…

    Something about that clip! I never ever want to see the real subtitles.

  • MaSch

    Hitler also found out that Michael Jackson could not perform at his birthday party because of his death. He didn’t take it well …

  • amanohyo

    doa766, instead of just a test, how about a mandatory government sponsored class about basic history and politics (IQ tests are too culturally biased and elitest, even for me) followed by a test to get a “voting license” followed every two years with a short update class and quiz to keep the license current. Give people a small tax break for taking the class, and fine them if they don’t show up.

    I’ve been in favor of a similar program for a “parenting license” since my second year as a public school teacher. If either parent fails, they can just retake the class until they pass. If either decides not to take the class or their license expires, then they can’t list the kids as dependents on their taxes.

    It makes sense to me because misinformed voting and raising unhealthy, maladjusted kids are potentially way more dangerous in the long run than driving poorly. The only tricky part would be regulating the content of the classes, besides getting people to actually support such “crazy commie ideas” in the first place of course. *sigh* Somedays, I think it’s a shame that Obama isn’t really the socialist that so many people say he is.

  • the rook

    yet another downfall parody

    http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=E1D776E2C30908A3&search_query=downfall

    the best thing is that they always work.

  • tomservo

    I read some conservative mb’s and they can’t believe people were stupid enough to vote for Obama. It’s amazing how both sides accuse each other of the exact same thing they engage in. One guy wrote that liberals hate anyone who doesn’t think like they do then went on to quote Rush Limbaugh. I do believe, on both sides, there are people who think the other side has to be stupid, ignorant, or evil. To this mentality, there can’t be legitiment disagreements, just zero-sum hatred.

  • amanohyo

    tomservo, I wish I could say that the “us vs them” attitude is peculiar to political message boards, but it’s everywhere. I blame pep rallies. It could be worse I guess, like uh… “me vs the universe.” (I think most people know at least one proudly miserable person who has this philosophy)

    It’s often hard for people to find the middle ground between, “We are objectively in the right, and they are objectively in the wrong.” and “Well, if we shared their life experiences, we would probably be on their side too.” They usually resolve the conflict by adding “…but we’d be wrong” to the last statement.

    I don’t see any solution for ingroup privilege other than social engineering on a scale that would frighten even me (in other words, a public education system that actually worked), and the home of the brave and land of the free would never put up with that kind of non-commercial mass brainwashing.

  • JoshB

    I read some conservative mb’s and they can’t believe people were stupid enough to vote for Obama.

    Well…the people saying that are the same people who would vote for Palin.

    Well, if we shared their life experiences, we would probably be on their side too.

    You mean if we were also stupid? Yes, I suppose in that case I would vote for Palin, although I’d be wrong.

  • amanohyo

    Yes JoshB, every single person who voted for Palin is stupid. Riddle solved. Now let the golden age of bipartisanship and mutual understanding begin!

    Seriously, I think it’s more likely a case of ignorance, parental and peer indoctrination, misinformation, and a general lack of perspective than stupidity. At the very least, you have to admit that there are an awful lot of stupid people on both sides of the aisle.

    I mean, there were smart people who voted for Bush (even the second time), there were smart people who supported Hitler, there are smart people who believe in God, isn’t it a tad too convenient that there would be exactly zero smart people who voted for Palin? Sure Shelbyville sucks and they marry their cousins and all, but there have to be one or two cool kids living there, right?

  • Calling your political opponent stupid is all too often just another way of admitting you don’t have the ability to come up with a more intelligent political argument. Both sides do it and in the end, i suspect it turns off more people than it actually persuades.

    Granted, after arguing on behalf of gay marriage with a person devoutly opposed to it, I understand the temptation to pretend that every one who disagrees with you is a moron.

    But then again the person I was arguing with was a relative–and one of the few people in his immediate family who finished a college degree.

    So I hate to keep saying it’s not always that simple–but sometimes it’s not always that simple.

    Except to the simple-minded…

  • tomservo

    One of the biggest problems is that people want their own opinions reinforced so they only get their info from like minded individuals. Plus, their only interaction w/ the other side is the hateful, insulting vitriol that’s become, sadly, so common in our political discourse. Thus, we get our current polarization that,I believe, is becoming increasingly dangerous.

  • Left_Wing_Fox

    As a completely different aside, Has anyone noticed that most of the parodies invert the original? In the original, Hitler is detached from reality and melting down in an ego-fueled rant at those trying to break the truth to him. In almost all the parodies though, Hitler is the tactical genius lecturing the failures around him.

    Just thought that was interesting.

  • JoshB

    I think it’s more likely a case of ignorance, parental and peer indoctrination, misinformation, and a general lack of perspective than stupidity

    *grin* I have this same argument with my father. He goes to the same verbose lengths to say stupid without sounding mean about it.

    Now let the golden age of bipartisanship and mutual understanding begin!

    Both sides do it and in the end, i suspect it turns off more people than it actually persuades.

    So avoiding the word stupid is a means to an end? That’s calculating of you both. Quoth Cordelia: “tact is just not saying true stuff.”

    But then again the person I was arguing with was a relative–and one of the few people in his immediate family who finished a college degree.

    I have family that supports Palin. I can dig it. You say I’m simple-minded. Are you sure that judgment doesn’t stem from emotional preference? After all, I’m an anonymous stranger on the internet, and this other fellow is family.

  • AJP

    doa766: Some states tried that kind of test before. You may (or may not) recall that they were banned by the Voting Rights Act. If you look up your history, you’ll understand why.

  • Paul

    Hey, I have the perfect test questions for a history test you’d have to pass before voting.

    How many countries have suffered CIA imposed dictators?

    How many European empires went broke and faded away because of borrowing lots of money to support a large military?

    How many countries had food riots this year because America is trying to fuel their cars with corn?

    What percentage of American foreign aid to Afghanistan is actually spent in that country?

    Actually, I’d only score a 75% on such a test. I was too busy to keep track of the food riots.

  • AJP

    One might think that the U.S. has a large expensive military, but in terms of % of GDP, it is miniscule. The military budget is not the problem, proportionate to other Western nations it is fairly ordinary (it is just that the U.S. GDP is so much larger than that of most other nations).

    About 60% of federal government outlays go to entitlement programs and interest: social security, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, agriculture subsidies and so on. This figure is not going to go down.

    But that’s not the whole problem. The problem is that the government takes in about 20% of GDP in revenues, and pays out about 24-25% in outlays. That is not sustainable. (The % taken in by the government is much lower than many other Western nations, but that is offset somewhat by the fact that state and local governments get tax revenues too).

  • JoshB

    One might think that the U.S. has a large expensive military, but in terms of % of GDP, it is miniscule

    The percentage of GDP is not important. What matters is what percentage of the federal budget it is, and more importantly, what percentage of tax revenues it eats up.

    When you look at it that way, defense spending accounts for roughly 50% of discretionary spending, and the entirety of the deficit between taxes and spending.

  • tomservo

    JoshB, I think AJP is right. The military budget, while way too high, is nothing compared to the entitlement programs, which seem to be intractible. Everyone talks about wasteful spending except when it comes to their gov. handouts. Palin and Tex. gov Perry talked big about evil Washington and it’s big spending, yet happily accepted fed money when it counted (Alaska gets, by far, more fed money per citizen than any other state.) Only poor old Mark Sanford was close to being a true fiscal conservative.

  • AJP

    The discretionary budget in total only accounts for about 40% of federal outlays. The military budget only accounts for about 20% of total outlays, and it is only that high if you include agencies like homeland security and the CIA in the “military” budget. The military budget also includes many projects that are actually related to other agensice, like NOAA and NASA, so the raw number is fairly misleading.

    The percentage of GDP is the important factor, because that determines how much of a drag on the economy the budget is. The thing is that we, as Americans, have gotten used to a system where the government takes in 18-20% of the GDP as revenues, but then spends about 115% of what it takes in. This is the problem, and it isn’t sustainable. In most other industrialized countries the government takes in a far greater share of GDP.

    It isn’t the “big military” that is bankrupting the nation. It is the consistent belief that we can have a government that spends much more than it takes in that is doing so.

  • Dexter Morgan

    As a completely different aside, Has anyone noticed that most of the parodies invert the original? In the original, Hitler is detached from reality and melting down in an ego-fueled rant at those trying to break the truth to him. In almost all the parodies though, Hitler is the tactical genius lecturing the failures around him.

    I noticed that as well, which makes me appreciate these parodies even more; the irony of an insulated monomaniac ranting unpleasant “truths” to his bumbling subordinates is too funny.

    I think the next logical step is for someone to make a feature-length “Downfall” parody, which I would totally watch.

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