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question of the day: What do you think of ‘Doctor Who’s Amy Pond?

Today’s question comes from reader Hank, who thinks it’s time to talk about Amy Pond some more, not within the context of this season’s Doctor Who stories (links to my blogging of all of which so far can be found here) but just in general, as a character and as a companion for the Doctor. And it seems Amy is on everyone’s mind as the season winds down — the beginning of the end starts on Saturday — since Karen Gillan gets the Radio Times cover this week, with Matt Smith’s Doctor pushed into the background.

Hank writes:

Personally, I think Amy Pond is delightful. Her reaction to the Doctor is very much as a man she finds attractive, and isn’t buffaloed by.

I’ve found, though, two women friends of mine seriously dislike her, finding her overbearing and shrill. One of them rants a lot about how everyone’s giving her a pass because she’s young and good-looking.

Given the high level of disagreement, I thought it would be interesting to ask folks what they think of Amy.

I did a very quick survey of what fans are saying online, and I didn’t notice a marked gender divide. One female blogger likes Amy’s sass, another female blogger thinks she’s hot but her clothes are silly, another blogger whose gender I can’t determine offers a balanced look at the fan complaints about her. Gillan herself says she’s “a normal girl with normal impulses.”

So, apart from the questions about Amy and the crack in the universe and whether she’s gonna get a bit reboot at the end of this season: What do you think of Amy Pond? Do you like her as a person? Does it bug you that she’s so blasé about life with the Doctor… or is that a refreshing change? Would she ever really have married Rory, or is she just a free spirit at heart? How much do you think Karen Gillan’s performance affects — for good or bad — your impression of the character?

(If you have a suggestion for a QOTD, feel free to email me. Responses to this QOTD sent by email will be ignored; please post your responses here.)



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  • RyanT

    Before I try to figure out what I think of her, I just wanted to give you a few more stats from my own friends. One female friend is obsessed with her (in a good way), another female friend very much likes her (but she’s severely behind a few episodes), and finally a male friend is a bit indifferent to her.

    As for me, I *loved* her in the first 2-3 episodes. I *think* I still like her now, but it’s not the same feeling I felt early on. Some of it might have to do with the general “up-in-the-air” so it’s hard for me to sort of get a handle on this season even with the characters. Like if this is just a big dream/reset then I’m finding it a bit more difficult to get invested on what’s happening. As for Amy Pond herself, in some moments she’s acting more like the doctor than the Doctor. Can’t explain why I thought this, but this reversal of roles is a bit unnerving. Finally and related to my last point, I feel the personality of Eleven and Amy are just too similar. We need contrast like what Ten had with his other companions.

    With all that said, still like Amy. I hope after the season is over and we figure out what’s happening, maybe I can retroactively love her again… or something. Damn timey wimey.

  • Karl Morton IV

    The wild variance in reaction to Amy is interesting, isn’t it? Amy sits well with me because, in my head anyway, when the Doctor popped off in the TARDIS with a “back in five minutes” that turned into 12 years, she spent much of the intervening time imagining what traveling with him might have been like. As an imaginative young thing, in spite of the head shrinkers, she would’ve come up with some wild imaginary scenarios so anything she might’ve encountered while actually traveling with the Doctor wouldn’t have been nearly as much of a shock as it would have to most of the rest of the Doctor’s companions who didn’t have that kind of preparation. Basically, if I somehow got to travel in the TARDIS, I’d like to think that my reaction to stuff would be more like Amy’s than any of the others’. Well, Martha was pretty cool too, come to think of it.

    Of course, if it’s all a dream then none of that’s right but we don’t know that yet.

  • There will be lots of pretty awesome comments about Amy Pond in this discussion. I’m going to focus on just one thing and try to talk dispassionately about her sex appeal (as opposed to going all drooly and lascivious). Karen Gillan has such a lush, sensual, very sexual appearance. I think that this is somewhat played up by makeup and wardrobe (does anyone wear skirts that short every single day of their lives), but there’s no doubt that Gillan herself just has “the look” where she just her pout alone deserves an NC-17 rating. I remember seeing Amy’s facial expression while watching the Doctor undress in The Eleventh Hour and thinking it spoke a million dirty little thoughts. I don’t fault Gillan for that; sex appeal is (good or bad) a young actress’ currency in this day and age, and she’s got a gift for being able to do with one pout what most porn stars can’t do in their entire career.

    As much as my male friends may protest, I’m actually kind of uncomfortable with this. I watched Doctor Who as I was growing up and, all those years, there was no hanky panky in the T.A.R.D.I.S. It’s not that the companions weren’t very pretty (some of them, anyhow), but it was clear that the show wasn’t about sexual tension. And I liked that, how the producers said “no” to making the Doctor and his companion into another Sam and Diane/Ross and Rachel/Whatever. Even Rose/Billie Piper, who is one of the most fecund and nubile sex kittens you’ll ever find, was clad in baggy overalls and fat trainers. When the Doctor and Rose finally consummated their feelings, it was about love… not sex. I liked that there’s a male television hero who didn’t have to sew his wild oats to keep people tuning in every week. As a boy I liked having him as a hero and as an adult I like that my kids see him the same way.

    I had trouble explaining to my two daughters what was going on at the end of Flesh and Stone. As she lept onto the bed in her tiny skirt after forcing passionate kisses on the Doctor, Amy was so clear about how her desire was not for something “so long term”. That was a line I’ve never seen crossed on this show. Now this little smidgeon of sex is part of my daughters’ experience of Doctor Who and, while I don’t expect them to be celibate and sexless through all their years, I mourn the little oasis that Doctor Who was before Amy took it there. No matter how it’s explained away in the final episodes of the season (or not), that’s the most un-Who plot development I have any memory of.

    Complaining about someone being “too sexy” is a little like being that kid in the class who reminds the teacher about the homework assignments just before the bell is about to ring. It’s not a very popular platform. Even so, the question was “What do you think of Amy Pond?” and my answer is: I think I could really fall for her as a person if she wasn’t the focal point for changes in the show that I’m not sure I like.

    I like Gillan as an actor. I like Amy as a character. If not for the writers using her as the catalyst for the sexing-up of the show, I’d give her an unqualified pass.

  • I wrote “sew” instead of “sow”.

    Please kill me.

  • I like Amy too–or at least I like her more than I expected to at the beginning of this season. However, I can’t help wondering why she deserves a special question of the day and not,say, Donna Noble? Or Martha Jones? Or Sarah Jane Smith? Or Jackie Tyler?

    I get the feeling I’m forgetting someone but I don’t remember quite who it is.;-)

  • Lisa

    I find it hard to get a handle on both her and the Dr. I think that Moffat writes for her well, he can see her clearly but other writers don’t as much. I liked her at the start and then intermittently since then. She does not seem to have had much respect for Rory so I liked the dream one where she did show that she loved him. I think she would have married him in the town that time forgot but ultimately she wouldn’t have been happy with him. (Although saying that, the episode reminded me a bit of that Firely episode where Zoe had to choose which one of her men to save). I think KG’S performance affects our perception of her enormously. Again, I’m back and forth on whether both of them are good actors and are good in these parts. I keep feeling like I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop with the entire series, so I can only give an assessment when I see it as a whole. It feels unfinished at the moment. I see what they’re aiming for with her, I’m not sure they’ve got there yet. Mind you, I have been accused of disliking her because she’s pretty but that’s men for you. I’m just unconvinced. Matt, I’m more comfortable with but he’s playing the Dr. so that helps.

    Eccleston speaks about Dr Who – http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10312426.stm

  • Lisa: Apparently not everyone was sorry to see Eccelston leave.

    http://io9.com/379266/old-doctor-too-grumpy-for-madonna-claims-barrowman

    Chris was always grumpy. You don’t always have to be intense. There comes a point when intensity makes you miserable – I think that was the case with Chris… Chris might have been a great Doc but he was darker and had a chip on his shoulder, he was not as much fun on set as David. I will give him the credit that he was the first Doctor to bring back the series and made a damn good job of it. But I just wouldn’t go to the pub with him.

    Sorry for the derail. I’m taking my fingers off the keys now. I promise.

  • Lisa

    Sorry – my derail. I read that before – he and Billie seemed to get on great though. Ever seen the Dead Ringers clip where he leaves Dr Who cos he’s too northern to play an alien? Ok sorry my derail.

  • Sarah

    She’s got one expression and one tone of voice. “Pert” becomes boring after a while

  • Nina

    Amy Pond….. I like little Amelia better.

    If the companion functions as our way in to understanding the Doctor, then Amy doesn’t work for me. For the record, I’m a mid-fifties woman, but I adored Rose & really identified with Donna.

    KG annoys me with the constantly widened eyes. Maybe the unsettled feeling about this season makes me grumpy…. I will say that I liked both the Doctor & Amy in Vincent & the Doctor; cried buckets. Mpfhh, I stay watching in hope.

  • Kassia

    Maybe it’s just because I am such a Tennant/RTD fangirl, but as much as I’ve loved this season, I’m still missing something. I loved that Doctor Who didn’t have to rely on sex appeal for viewers to tune in every week, it’s just smart, interesting television, and the Doctor and his companions could have a honest-to-god friendship (save for Rose, and, well, I guess Martha). And here I don’t quite see that. I understand why Amy is sexualized, and don’t get me wrong, it’s alright with me, but as a straight female die hard Who fan, it’s occasionally annoying when she comes out of the tardis every episode in a tiny skirt.

    Another thing is that I think the Doctor and Amy are too much alike. (I’ve seen very little Who from before the rebooted series, so keep that in mind.) From what I’ve seen, the Doctor’s companions changed him in a different way, and you could see him progressing. Amy seems a bit eccentric and everywhere, just like the Doctor, and they don’t have that occasional clash of opinions and personalities that the previous companions did that I loved seeing.

    BUT!

    I do like Amy a lot. I think Karen Gillan is great, and you can tell that she enjoys herself on the show and she and Matt get along great. I enjoy the kind of blase interest that Amy has in the Doctor. It’s like she knows him so well that she knows not to take any shit from him. The Doctor, for all his amazingness, knows that he is wonderful and Amy doesn’t let him get too arrogant and keeps his ego firmly in check.

    I’ve been thinking about what still bugged me about Amy that I miss from RTD writing. We haven’t seen where she comes from. Maybe that contributes to my feeling that she is a bit eccentric like the Doctor, but we don’t know anything about Amy’s past other than she lived with her aunt, her parents are gone, she is from Scotland, and she (was? is?) engaged to Rory. With Rose, Martha, and Donna, we saw what their lives were before the Doctor. We knew their family. We knew what they were like before the Doctor and after the Doctor, and we could see the progression. With Amy, who knows who she really is. Hopefully that will change with certain spoilery things that I won’t mention, and I look forward to more Amy Pond next year.

  • Erik

    I will first state that I have a serious weakness for pale redheads, but will try and say what I like about her character beyond that.

    I find Amy to be absolutely fascinating. She is this damaged little girl from a very small town. She has always had a life that is too big for this small town, but has never left it. Why? I believe it is because of the night a mad alien fell out of the sky into her garden. Beyond the obvious affect this had on her, as the minutes turned into days, which turned into months & years of waiting for him, I think, even if subconsciously, she felt if she ever left town he would not be able to find her when he came back. She was the oddball of the town, between having no parents and being cared for by an absentee-aunt, she was always going on about her raggedy doctor, creating this amazing fantasy world she lived in. And, face it, that world was a hell of a lot more interesting than the real one she had to inhabit.

    The one constant in her life was poor Rory. A simple man from a simple town with simple dreams who almost certainly wanted her to be part of his life from wee childhood. He has been Amy’s best mate, her confidant and the one person who would always be there for her and she knows always will. I believe that is why she agreed to marry him. The Doctor had been gone for another 2 years and would probably be for at least another ten. And here is Rory, poor pining Rory, her best friend. Well, not many other choices out there, might as well get hitched to him. And she would have been miserable because she is a passionate woman and there is no passion for Rory. She does love him. Deeply, but not passionately and not as a lover, as a friend. The look on her face in “Amy’s Choice” when she sees he is not dead, the quiet look said so much. He is such a huge part of her life, the biggest part short of the fantasy world she created with the Raggedy Doctor and it had almost been ripped out of her (little did she know…) and she realized in that moment what he did mean to her, he is her best mate, she can’t imagine her life without him…but she still is not in love with him. This affects me deeply and I can see all this because I AM Rory to a particular woman, and it sucks. This has all been brilliantly played up to & including the lack of any real chemistry between them.

    I really do wish the other writers knew how to write for Amy as well as Mr. Moffat does. He gets her and knows exactly what he’s trying to do with her. The others really just seem to see her as the generic girl, a bit of eye candy there for the Doc to rescue & be our exposition gatherer. I really liked how in TBB and VotD Amy was integral to the grand solutions of the stories. I showed that she is not only a blazingly intelligent woman, but that she is a very emotional woman and she GETS the Doctor. She is also able to see the little things that can get missed by our good Doctor as he is sometimes too overwhelmed by the big picture.

    Karen is playing the role wonderfully. I love her energy and sass. She is able to keep the sass in check, though and not be grating (to me at least), unlike, say Tegan or Peri who simply seemed to just not want to be gallivanting around the universe with the Doctor. She wants to be here, she’s dreamed of this all her life, but she also isn’t going to let the Doctor get way with any crap. She’s been taking care of herself too long to suddenly give her life over completely to someone else wholeheartedly.

    And damn but she is gorgeous.

    Sorry, went on a bit and was all over the place, but don’t have too many people around to discuss Dr. Who with so it kind of all came pouring out…

  • Magess

    I’ll be in the minority and say that I don’t actually like Amy Pond that much. I liked Amelia better.

    From the outset Amy just seemed very presumptuous. And I know all the companions have been outspoken, smart, take charge women. But from the second episode Amy was going out about things the Doctor “never” does or how he is or isn’t, as though she should know anything about him at all. I think… ok, you know when one of your friends gets a new girlfriend, and she comes in and talks about all the things he loves or hates or what he’s like as though you haven’t known him for years and she’s just SO privileged? Yeah, it’s like that.

    I think I liked her the best in the Vincent episode, perhaps because she was finally impressed by something? I don’t know.

    I actually found Rory to be more interesting than Amy. Maybe because he made a slight effort to take things seriously. That there was actual danger. And she just seems flippant. Maybe I misread her. Or I’m a curmudgeon, I dunno.

  • Erik

    Another thing I just thought of as to why Amy may seem a bit prickly – We tend to see characters in fiction (especially fantasy & sci-fi) who have had their dreams come true/take off on grand adventures right away. When we meet up again with Amy after the Doctor’s “5 minute trip” promise to Amelia, she is a woman who’s dreams did NOT come true. And she is bitter and has built up her own defenses against getting creamed again emotionally. It’s something we’re not used to seeing. This is not a character trait that is easily erased after a decade plus of building up.

    Again, probably reading waaaay too much into things and all this could be proved B.S. by the final two episodes, but it’s what I’m seeing.

  • apocalexxnow

    I don’t like her. She copies previous companions too much and the few things she has different about her aren’t that good. Being that childish I mean. And why would she throw herself at the Doctor, when she really loves Rory. I read somewhere, that the stories this season are way better, but somehow the show misses chemistry – I totally agree. The Doctor and Amy’s connection seems somehow unbelievable and artificial. I may be affected by missing Donna on the show, but still.
    On the side note – neither the Doctor, nor Amy are that beautiful. Infact I find Matt Smith very ugly and most of the fans in my country, Bulgaria, think the same. I’m shocked to see so positive comments on his looks. Amy is okay though, but still even Rose was more beautiful than her.

  • J

    Hi there! J from geeksdreamgirl here, the blogger whose gender you can’t determine. I just wanted to clarify that yes, I am female, though I find it kind of fun my post wasn’t read as “a woman’s take on Amy Pond.” Now I wonder if readers actually envision the dinosaur from my avatar when they read my posts.

    Reading some of these comments has compelled me to jump into the fray. When I was introduced to Doctor Who years ago, I was under the impression that the Doctor was truly alien, a sexless being, and, well, he simply didn’t think of his companions that way. When the Doctor/Rose arc was introduced I was kicking and screaming with the best of them. I still am. But that doesn’t mean the companions are sexless.

    I feel for the guy who had to explain Amy throwing herself at the Doctor to his daughters, I really do. But… is it all that different from explaining Captain Jack? Or, for that matter, is it any different than the thousands of children who watched the original Star Trek and wondered why Captain Kirk didn’t settle down with one of those nice alien girls? If children are ready, they’ll see the sex there, and if not, it’ll go over their heads. I’m just glad to see a recent companion that’s not moping around the TARDIS pining over someone inappropriate (in my view).

  • Lisa

    I don’t think she’s been sexualised, I think she’s just expressing herself. It’s about what she wants and needs.

  • Adam

    I still think the presumptuous redhead, Amy Pond is the presumptuous redhead, River Song.

  • Alli

    I love Amy. I think she’s witty, clever and sexy (and not because she wears short skirts either). I’m a straight woman, but she would convert. It’s her confidence that I find so appealing, even if it borders on narcissism. Speaking of which, I also think she’s a bit damaged, and I’d love to see that explored more, because I think that would reflect more on why she treated Rory the way she did. I think a lot of people don’t like her because of that, and I don’t blame them.

    I find it hard to get a handle on both her and the Dr. I think that Moffat writes for her well, he can see her clearly but other writers don’t as much.

    I really do wish the other writers knew how to write for Amy as well as Mr. Moffat does. He gets her and knows exactly what he’s trying to do with her. The others really just seem to see her as the generic girl, a bit of eye candy there for the Doc to rescue & be our exposition gatherer.

    I agree with both of these posters. The Eleventh Hour is still one of my favorite episodes of the year because of Amy (and Amelia and Matt Smith). Who would throw the Doctor up against the car like that? I watched Time of the Angels again last night, and I loved Amy in that episode too. I know she was too presumptuous about how other people treat the Doctor as Magess suggested, but I just think she’s speaking for us, the fans, at that moment. However, other writers this series seem to take her spunk and confidence and make it ridiculous and irritating. I made a big stink about Chibnall’s writing in the Silurian episodes. Amy was childish in Cold Blood whenever she was faced with a life and death situation. I think that weakened the end of that episode for me, and changed my view of Amy a bit.

    Someone else mentioned that they don’t like the chemistry between Matt and Karen. I disagree. I think that has been, by far, the best part of this season. Without that chemistry, this season might fall apart. However, I do agree that the chemistry between Amy and Rory was awful, and I might like her character even more if I had felt more of a spark between Karen and Arthur Darvill. Then again, as others have pointed out, Amy Pond may have never loved Rory “that way,” which would make sense.

    So, to sum up, when Amy’s humor is written as wit instead of childish quips at the wrong times, I love her. This has been the case in most of the episodes, but the Silurian episodes just bothered me. I have to admit though, I wouldn’t mind seeing her in a pair of pants just once this season.

  • Alli

    Sorry, that was supposed to say “she would convert me.”

  • Interesting comments, Alli. I actually find Amy’s chemistry with the Doctor hard to believe, but her chemistry with Rory very believable.

    I find the chemistry with the Doctor a bit forced; like they’re very close and have years of history behind them. It’s familiar and easy in the way you only achieve after a long, long stretch of ups and downs. Story-wise, that might all be happening off-screen (who knows how long she’s been traveling with him now?), but we don’t get to see that. So when Amy does something with the Doctor which makes him look like they’re old, dear friends… I don’t totally get it. To me, it’s too soon for that. Next season, maybe. This season should still be Amy going “Holy crap… what did I get myself into?”

    Her chemistry with Rory is very believable to me, maybe because I’ve seen something like it before in my own life. She loves him, but takes him for granted. She is iffy on how she feels about him when she has the luxury of being iffy. A little thoughtless and inconsiderate. And he invites it because of his personality and demeanor and how he worships the ground she walks on (which is something that a character like Amy doesn’t respect). On the other hand, when it’s clear she could lose him, she adopts a very different demeanor. The love is very believable. Can you think of anything in the series so far that’s upset or scared Amy more than the thought of losing Rory? Even her attachment to the Doctor couldn’t soothe that pain for her.

  • Lisa

    Yeah I agree with you, in the sense that you feel that their bonding has taken place off the screen for the most part … but then again maybe that’s the plan and we’ll see more if time does indeed loop back (that’s not a spoiler, just speculation). Cos it’s like they’re trying to write that they’re great friends and have this great bond, with not a lot to back it up. Maybe they are fed up with the wide eyed wonderment companion, that’s all they’ve done in NuWho.

  • On the side note – neither the Doctor, nor Amy are that beautiful.

    That’s pretty subjective, really. And I’m not sure it really matters.

  • Jim

    I think that the person that was given the pass is Moffat. Because he wrote some of the best Doctor Who ever, we just assumed he could run the show. I love Matt and Karen. There have been moments that show me their potential. There has been some magic. But looking back at the season so far… it is too much a mixed bag. The character development is weak. The logical cohesion isn’t there. NOW perhaps that will be addressed in these last two episodes, I don’t know. As Charlie Weiss proved at Notre Dame, it is harder to run the show than just write an episode or two and even though you can be brilliant at one, you may not be at the other. I think RTD had the opposite problem. He was a better show runner than a writer of individual episodes. IMHO. Still having a great time though!

  • Alice

    Thank you. Finally someone is saying that maybe these episodes aren’t God’s gift to the Dr. Who cannon. I think Karen Gillan is interesting but I cannot get my head around the character Amy Pond. In fact, I can’t get my head around the whole season so far, which mostly seems to take place in the English/Welsh countryside. Maybe this is all just a dream, or maybe it seems that way because it just doesn’t make sense.

    I don’t think the relationships are developed well and I see no spark between the characters. While Tennant had these wide eyes that instantly created rapport with almost everyone, Matt Smith hardly ever looks anyone in the eye–he seems distant and weird. And maybe that is what the doctor should be. I just don’t like it.

  • Rob

    I think Amy has really taken away from the Doctor in some episodes this season. And that sucks, basically. Why? Because last time I looked, the show was called Doctor Who, not the Amy Pond Variety Hour. It’s one thing to say, “girl power” and cheer her on because she has a vagina, and the Doctor doesn’t, so to speak, but when it starts detracting from the main character, I think that’s a problem. So maybe there was a reason past companions were the way they were? Maybe it’s not so much horrible script writers who just want to write screaming, useless women, but perhaps a realisation that to serve the main character properly, and keep the focus on him, the companions have to be a rung or two lower down the ladder.

  • Laurel

    Maybe it’s not so much horrible script writers who just want to write screaming, useless women, but perhaps a realisation that to serve the main character properly, and keep the focus on him, the companions have to be a rung or two lower down the ladder.

    It’s not so much that the companion needs to be a rung or two lower on the ladder, but rather, they need to be on a different ladder altogether. The Companion has always been there to see things that the Doctor doesn’t. Together, they cover each other’s blind spots and that’s how the Doctor manages to save the day every adventure (mostly).

    So no, we don’t need useless, exposition-providing characters, but characters that provide a contrasting outlook and/or mindset to the Doctor’s.

  • Alex

    I think Karen Gillan and Amy have been great so far. I won’t go so far as to call her “best companion yet”. Rose remains the best companion of all time in my opinion, with Donna in second followed by Romana (both versions, though trending towards Mary Tamm). But Amy is tied for fourth place with Sarah Jane, and that’s not a bad place to be. Depending how the season ends will determine if she moves past Romana or Donna in my books. But unless she gets a multi-season character arc like Rose, and until such a thing plays out, I won’t put her past Rose. Not yet. I’m sort of relieved there’s no romance with the Doctor this time around (well there wasn’t any with Donna either but we still had the shadow of Rose at that point) because there are so many sexually immature Who fans who seemed put off by the idea that the Doctor and a companion might fall in love, so fine, let’s play things in a different direction for a bit. I’m not sold on her relationship with Rory, though, as I do feel it’s taking away from developing her relationship with the Doctor. And I don’t mean romantic. In some ways they haven’t clicked yet, and not counting the attempted seduction we haven’t seen many “Are we Mr. Grumpy Face today?” moments. Still, the episodes remain high-calibre, and whether we love Amy or hate Amy, the fact remains she’s only a transient character anyway so let’s enjoy her while we can before Karen gets that big 6-figure movie deal we all know is coming and becomes the next Nicole Kidman and a new girl, or guy, gets a chance to share the TARDIS with Matt Smith.

  • Alli

    I find the chemistry with the Doctor a bit forced; like they’re very close and have years of history behind them. It’s familiar and easy in the way you only achieve after a long, long stretch of ups and downs. Story-wise, that might all be happening off-screen (who knows how long she’s been traveling with him now?), but we don’t get to see that. So when Amy does something with the Doctor which makes him look like they’re old, dear friends… I don’t totally get it. To me, it’s too soon for that. Next season, maybe. This season should still be Amy going “Holy crap… what did I get myself into?”

    I can understand that. Makes sense. I enjoy watching Karen and Matt act like old friends during the episodes though. It doesn’t feel fake to me. It just feels fun. If we really need an explanation for it, maybe Amy acts that way because she has been having adventures with the Doctor in her head for 12 years? I agree it was a little odd in episode 4, but like I said previously, she was just saying what we were all thinking. Would it really have made a difference in her character if she said, “Do people normally speak to you like that?” vs. “I’ve never seen anyone talk to you like that before”?

    Her chemistry with Rory is very believable to me, maybe because I’ve seen something like it before in my own life. She loves him, but takes him for granted. She is iffy on how she feels about him when she has the luxury of being iffy. A little thoughtless and inconsiderate. And he invites it because of his personality and demeanor and how he worships the ground she walks on (which is something that a character like Amy doesn’t respect). On the other hand, when it’s clear she could lose him, she adopts a very different demeanor. The love is very believable. Can you think of anything in the series so far that’s upset or scared Amy more than the thought of losing Rory? Even her attachment to the Doctor couldn’t soothe that pain for her.

    When I talk about chemistry, I’m talking about the way the two actors play off of each other. You’re referring to the chemistry and relationships between characters and whether they’re believable. (I admit, I was put off by both in Cold Blood)

    Sadly, I’ve been in a similar relationship myself. You can do some nasty things when you’re insecure and immature in your early 20s. It’s not that I don’t believe their relationship, it’s just that I didn’t see a single sexual spark between the two of them. Nothing. Zilch. That would be fine if I only felt that way about Amy, because she’s the one using him. But I didn’t even get that from Rory. Yes Arthur Darvill went through all the motions, but there was nothing between him and Karen. Their kiss in Vampires in Venice may have been the worst kiss in the history of Television (and Amy initiated it). I don’t think it’s a matter of writing, I think it’s a matter of bad casting.

    It’s one thing to say, “girl power” and cheer her on because she has a vagina

    Funny, I don’t remember anyone mentioning her vagina. I mean, I bet Rose, Martha and Donna all had nice ones too…

  • Funny, I don’t remember anyone mentioning her vagina. I mean, I bet Rose, Martha and Donna all had nice ones too…

    Here comes the Fanfic… ;)

  • Isobel

    I remain undecided on Amy. I like the theory of Amy, I’m just not too sure about the character in practice. Partly it’s because there was the whole Rory thing and the chemistry between the two actors was horrible, which made that whole side of the story very hard for me to believe, leaving the character feeling a bit one-dimensional. I actually really disliked the whole Rory thing and (it’s an extreme reaction on my part, but when I get irritated by a character I get really irritated) there was a point where I felt like not watching any more if I had to see any more cringe inducing scenes between the two of them.

    Sometimes I really like Karen Gillian, and other times I wish she’d just shut up and stop with the screeching.

    I loved Rose as a companion (she’s my favourite) – Billie Piper did a fantastic job and Rose’s world was so much more realised, and her relationship with the doctor grew slowly (same as Donna, who I also adored). The Rose/Mickey relationship was much better realised and acted than the Amy/Rory one. She was confident without being irritating. Sometimes I like Amy’s confidence (like when she worked out what to do with the angel on the screen) and other times it’s just a bit much.

    I’m sure there’s a reason why she’s been acting like she’s known the Doctor forever, but it’s making it hard for me to like Amy because the way we get to know the companions is by being involved in their growing friendship/relationship with the Doctor. When that just pops up fully fledged, I feel like I’ve been left floundering going what? Who is she? Why should I care, particularly?

    So yeah, I guess what it (very incoherently) boils down to is, I want to like Amy but I’m not entirely sure I do yet. I did like her immediately, but have cooled a little as the series has gone on.

  • Maddie

    I find the comments about Amy here to be generally fascinating (perhaps more than she deserves) – from the all-out, ‘she’s gorgeous, sexy, etc.’ to – well, I’m not sure what, exactly. She’s brainy? Sassy? Knows what she wants? Immature? Damaged?

    I find one simple thread with Amy: she is a return, in many ways, to the old model of companion: the foolishly (and rather sexily) dressed damsel in distress. In spite of the first two episodes that gave her some initiative, she has been downgraded to the screaming wench with a side of sauciness designed to appeal to that wretched demographic of 14 – 50 year old men.

    I’m annoyed at Moffet and Co. reducing this character to a miniskirt and heels always in need of rescue (and being constantly talked down to by the Doctor)- especially after that promising beginning. The series finale is supposed to be a reset of her character and I hope it involved a serious wardrobe change as well. How can we take her seriously for an extended period of time if she’s simply dolled up to be drooled over instead of adapting to what is always a life of adventure – even Rose wore jeans and trainers, dammit.

    Younger Doctor, even younger companion, clear sexual tension and a focus on the ‘romance’ of two characters who haven’t a spark about them (not to mention Rory looks at least ten years older than Amy – I like him, but are we supposed to believe they are the same age?)- they’re playing off of what made Rose such a successful companion, while playing to their childhood fantasies about Leela or Tegan or Peri.

    Smith’s Doctor, much like Peter Davison, is given over to a more alien sensibility – these are not huggy/emotional Doctors, but serious men mostly indifferent to the attractiveness of their companions. This was necessary in Davison’s day as the rule at the time was no hanky panky in the TARDIS. Davison’s Doctor was also backgrounded somewhat by bossy companion, Tegan – not unlike the Doctor and Amy. New Who has broken this rule in favor of more ‘realistic’ possibilities – which Moffet and his team might be somewhat ambivalent about. After all, they see Dr. Who as a ‘fairytale’ rather than science fiction.

    If they’re going to break out of this rut, Amy needs to toughen up and add some contrast to the Doctor – else she’ll wind up being a one-note like Martha. What can she add, as a companion? A psychological study is one thing – she has a unique take on the Doctor and unique ideas about him since she met him as a child – but what about the long run? When does Amy get to grow up?

  • RogerBW

    I’m somewhat in agreement with Corey: there’s plenty of sex everywhere else on television, it wasn’t necessary to shove it into the foreground of Doctor Who as well. RTD came through to me like a fanfic writer who’d been given carte blanche to remake the show in his image.

    As for the character of Amy: slava bogu, haven’t we had enough women on TV who are interesting because they’re Damaged? What about having a female character who actually brings something to the game? Amy has no skills or useful experience that have ever been mentioned, just a random ability to understand stuff whenever the plot demands it.

    (Yes, I’m a fan of Romana and Leela, and Liz Shaw, and even the early Sarah Jane – they all served a dramatic purpose beyond the simple audience identification figure and foil for The Doctor.)

  • NorthernStar

    I loved her debut, especially all the years she’d spent trying to convinced, or be convinced, that the “Raggedy Doctor” wasn’t real.

    But that was the high point of the character and its been a bit of a decline. She’s perfectly nice and does the job, but its a little…lacking.

    I think one of the problems is we’ve been spoiled by RTD’s quite astounding ability to make characters real and believable with as little as a few lines.

    And her clothes… I hate to be the fan that moans about that sort of thing, but to be honest it is a little jarring to see totally impractical clothes back on the companion. It feels shallow to want to look good even at a cost of not running fast enough away from danger and getting yourself killed (or worse someone else killed) and I really don’t think Amy is shallow.

    So if its not shallow, it must be unreal and suspension of belief is damaged.

    And her throwing herself at the Doctor in that way…pure male wish fulfillment.

    But, to finish on a positve note, I think KG is a fine actress and I’m really looking forward to her preformances in the final episodes, as Amy begins to remember Rory.

  • Niki

    For me Amy Pond is now starting to grate on my nerves. Her tendency to shout every other line and the overused deer in the headlights look are wearing very thin. I was hoping she would evolve a bit but so far, for me, nothing has improved.

    Steven Moffat didn’t help to endear me to the character or his decision making process when he said (and I paraphrase here because I can’t find the quote online) he saw Gillian’s audition tape and thought she was fantastic but was disappointed she looked short and dumpy but when then pleasantly surprised when Karen turned up and in person she was tall, thin and pretty.

  • Niki

    The quote was from Doctor Who confidential this is what he actually said:

    “And I thought, ‘well she’s really good. It’s just a shame she’s so wee and dumpy.'”
    Then
    “When she was about to come through to the auditions I nipped out for a minute and I saw Karen walking on the corridor towards me and I realised she was 5’11, slim and gorgeous and I thought ‘Oh, oh that’ll probably work.'”

  • Justanothernerd

    Eh, I like KG’s spunk alright, but my opinion of her has steadily waned since about Time of the Angels (with a small upspike in “Amy’s Choice”). I thought the initial idea behind her, of a strong, clever but confused young woman still stuck in her childhood mindset (as symbolized by “the raggedy doctor”) as a good one. Those moments when The Doctor looks straight into her eyes and gives her specific instructions or advice feel very special and intimate in a fresh way the new series hasn’t been until now.

    However, recent episodes have seen Amy’s “spunk” devolve, in many scenes, into simply screaming. She screams when she’s happy (“got my SPACESHIP, got my BOYS”), she screams when she’s annoyed (“SHUT UP!”), and she screams many, many times when she’s in danger. “The Lodger” gave her almost nothing else to do, literally. I know it’s probably supposed to be a defense mechanism for dealing with strange situations and deep down she’s insecure yadda yadda, but it doesn’t make it any easier to watch.

    Hopefully, we’re going to see her change as the Pandorica opens and she remembers, and I hope it gives us more insight into her psyche than “she’s sassy!” Gillan has had good moments throughout the season, and hopefully we’ll have a script that gives her a more worthy examination as things wrap up.

  • Chris Jones

    I absolutely hate Amy Pond. She is definitely the worst thing about this season – among many other problems. I love redheads, and I was really looking forward to Amy as a companion when I saw the photos ahead of time, but I have not liked Amy Pond starting with episode 1. Part of it is the character, and part of it is Karen Gillan’s lack of acting ability. First of all, none of Amy’s reactions seem to fit what’s going on around her. This seems to speak more of Karen’s ability as an actress than the character of Amy. As for the character, Amy Pond is just annoying, and in the episode where she tried to jump the Doctor’s bones, she just came across as a skanky slut. I find nothing redeeming about her, and her character does not fit at all as a companion to the Doctor. Hopefully she’ll get sucked through a crack in time and we’ll all forget about her. Worst companion since Peri!

  • I think one thing we have to bear in mind is that our standards for the Doctor’s companions are very, very high. Even Rose herself wasn’t accepted with open arms by Who fans for a very long time, so I think it’s fair to say that it’s a tough gig and the companions tend to receive their due accolades in posterity and not so much during their tenure. Bear in mind also that some of the greatest companions the Doctor had (such as Sarah Jane Smith or Romana) weren’t exactly the female versions of Sir Lawrence Olivier, either. Our memories make them seem like more than they were sometimes, and it’s hard for the current regime to compare.

    My concerns about Amy Pond as a character have already been stated in this thread, but I can’t see how Karen Gillan herself can be thought of as any less than the companions who went before her. She’s at least as decent an actor as her predecessors, at least as pretty, and (to the show’s credit) able to fit into more than just a scream queen role when the story demands. Her performance is flawed and imperfect, sure, and she’s not going to be everyone’s cup of tea… but if you think she’s flat out bad, I suggest you go watch “Time and the Rani” and see how grating and puerile some of the companion performances have been over the years… and how history has given them a pass anyhow.

  • bronxbee

    what i’m missing with Amy Pond (and as i’ve stated elsewhere, in this whole season) is a sense of *wonder*… the sheer pleasure of travelling through time and space with is amazing person who has seen and done so much. as we saw with donna, it doesn’t have to be romantic love, but some sort of love and affection for the gift of this adventurous life would be nice. i don’t know whether to blame the writers, and SM’s vision, or KG’s delivery of the lines she’s given… all i know is, as the season goes on, i’m less and less entranced with her (and my affection for MS’s Doctor has not ratcheted up to the level i would like either — and for some of that, i blame the production team, again).

    i thought little Amelia Pond was far more the vital sort of companion the Doctor needs… although i can see problems with having a small child as his companion. but it seems to me like something’s been burned out of “Amy”… right from the moment when she whacks the Doctor in the head with a cricket bat (what? she made all those dolls and drawings and then didn’t recognize him 12 years later?)… her casual attitude towards him, her lack of respect or affection… her seeming indifference to the time travel, all bother me intensely.

    i keep hoping this will all come right in the end.

  • One observation I’d like to make, though not intended to support or contradict any of the fine comments which have been made so far: I thought Amy’s first steps into the TARDIS were a great moment in television history. It was all perfect. The music blew me away and perfectly underlined the sense of amazement that someone must feel when entering the TARDIS for the first time. The camerawork was nothing short of perfect, transparently giving us a sense of the new TARDIS in all its glory while, at the same time, opening a door on Amy’s speechless amazement. Speaking of Amy, Karen Gillan really did get a bullseye in this short piece (even if it’s arguable whether she’s gotten another bullseye since). Her controlled flabbergasted “deer in the headlights” response is so Amy Pond, and a characterful contrast to other reactions in past shows (almost the diametric opposite of David Morrisey’s near-hysteria). I always think she’s rarely more beautiful than at this personal, intimate moment where she realizes all her childhood dreams were, in fact, real.

    Last but greatest is Matt Smith himself confidently taking the reigns as the 11th Doctor and finally making me believe it’s really, really him. With the Doctor’s definitive confidence and lightness of spirit, he says so gently to her with a knowing and warm smile: “Well? Anything you’d like to say? Any passing remarks? …I’ve heard them all.”

    It was the moment which, for me, marked the end of the very long and epic saga of the 10th Doctor’s exit.. the end of the woe and self-doubt and complex sadness that David Tennant masterfully brought to the final episodes of 2009. It was the moment when I thought “Oh, good. My favorite show is back and going to be fun again.” I’d been waiting for so long.

    Karen Gillan was part of that crucial moment and, because it was so perfect, I’ll never write her off completely, no matter what else she does.

  • …but if you think she’s flat out bad, I suggest you go watch “Time and the Rani” and see how grating and puerile some of the companion performances have been over the years… and how history has given them a pass anyhow.

    In other words, your central argument seems to be “at least she’s better than Melanie.”

    And I’ll have to admit that Melanie was not one of my favorite companions. Then again I wasn’t aware that any of the other fans were particularly fond of Melanie.

  • Here comes the Fanfic… ;)

    Well, I doubt it will be coming from MaryAnn, Bronxbee, Weimlady or LaSargenta but I’m sure it will be coming from somewhere…

  • In other words, your central argument seems to be “at least she’s better than Melanie.”

    No. My central argument was in my first sentence: “I think one thing we have to bear in mind is that our standards for the Doctor’s companions are very, very high.”

  • Jim

    kind of re-watching the season in preparation for the end…and you know what? It does grow on you.
    The Eleventh Hour was pure magic.One of my most favorite of the New Who. It was certainly the best Doctor intro I have ever seen (seen them all but Power of the Daleks).
    The next two had their problems but were entertaining. The First two parter with the Angels was the show firing on all cylinders. Vampires was OK. Amy’s Choice was actually wonderful. I wish the twist at the end was different as we could have a lot more of the Dream Lord character in my book. The Silurian story works so much better in a straight-through-both-parts watching. Vincent was again magic. I enjoyed the Lodger very much. Though it is too new to be re-assessed yet! Through out Karen Gillan has been a delight. I just don’t know Amy as much as I knew Donna or Rose.
    With the spoilers I have seen,I have great hopes that the character of Amy will make much more sense when the Bing Bang has ended. OK…time for bed.

  • RyanT

    If they’re going to break out of this rut, Amy needs to toughen up and add some contrast to the Doctor – else she’ll wind up being a one-note like Martha.

    I know this thread is about Amy, but I have to jump in defense for MY favorite companion, the beautiful and kick-ass Martha Jones. All of the Tennant companions were tough and added contrast to him, including Martha. I mean she traversed the WORLD for A YEAR while the Master was in rule. That’s probably the most the Doctor has asked of his companion and she did it beautifully. Plus she was just as awesome in Torchwood and IMO had the best “resolution” for a Tennant companion i.e. still fighting the good fight while Donna’s mind-wiped and Rose is stuck with a lesser version of the Doctor.

  • Liz

    It saddens me to admit it, because I’m usually as big a fan of the Companion as The Doctor, but I just haven’t warmed to Amy. Mind you, I’m on the BBC America schedule and have been watching with an open mind, thinking maybe the reason I feel there’s something ‘off’ about her is part of the overall plot of the season.

    I’ve liked all the Companions so far, even Martha, who I thought she could have been The Best Companion Ever ™ but was written into a corner with her Doc-Crush, which undermined her. But the fact that she was super together in her life, the lynch-pin in her family and had a promising career ahead of her as a MD made a really interesting change from Rose, who was drifting and bored. I always thought it would have given Martha (and us) some closure if someone had pointed out in the S4 ‘Companion Fest’ eps that, while Rose and Donna were unsatisfied with the choices they’d made and, because of that, really NEEDED The Doctor to make their exisitance more fulfilling, Martha didn’t need him as much in that sense and that’s why The Doctor kept her at arm’s length. Of all his modern Companions, Martha was always the one most likely to leave him and get on with her life. That’s how I saw it anyway. Let’s face it – The Doctor needs to be needed, he thrives on it. It’s pretty much what the show is about.

    And, like Rose and Donna, Amy is yet another girl who’s wasn’t living up to her potential, someone who was waiting for something wonderful to land in her lap, instead of making it happen for herself. And now that it’s come along, she seems rather put out at times and often petulant and even sulky. While Donna may have been fast and loose with her loud opinions – she was always so thrilled to go anywhere and explore. If the Companion is meant to be ‘us’, I’m not feeling that Amy Pond speaks for me or anyone else I know that watches the show. And that’s too bad. I agree with the Nina about taking an shine, straight away, to little Amelia, who was quite matter-of-fact in accepting The Doctor and who he was but still had a sense of wonder and excitment about it. And that’s something that Older Amy isn’t as good at getting across. To me, anyway. I wondered why I had enjoyed ‘The Hungry Earth’ so much when so little happened in it and my friend pointed out – “It’s because Amy wasn’t in it as much.” And that, well, kinda sucks.

    I think she’s lovely looking and, (esp. as a fellow ginger ;-) ), I wanted, no – expected, to like her and I’m disappointed that I just…don’t. In fact, the one thing I was a bit nervous of with the new cast and crew line-up is the only thing I 100% like about the show and that’s Matt Smith. The episodes have lacked, I dunno, something but I’ve put that down to growing pains. Every show goes through them, particularly after a shake-up, and I’ve been a fan since the Tom Baker days, so I’ll keep watching for sure. Besides, even when I think ‘Who’ isn’t up to it’s own high standards, it’s still better than most stuff on TV.

    But, as far as accusations go about how Amy dresses – all I can say is whoever does the PR for ‘DW’ should get a bonus. What better way to get people to watch than to create a scandal over something as tame as miniskirts, which have been around since my Mum was a fashion-conscious girl. She’s a young, pretty, girl – not a school marm. The real offense would be if she didn’t have the legs to show off but she does. What’s she supposed to wear? A high collar and a floor-length maxi? This – from the country of the Page 3 girl, Benny Hill and ‘Carry On..’ movies? Come on! :-)

    But I hope the last handful of eps changes my mind about Amy. It honestly feels weird, and not good-weird, rolling my eyes when she speaks.

  • Lisa

    I liked Martha too, because she was so together and happy in her life. I loved that she left him to get on with her life, she’s a strong woman. Full respect. They did write her into a corner with the love sick puppyness. That got boring.

    I miss seeing the companion’s family-we haven’t seen any of Amy’s. It really helps to get to know them but I’m hoping this lack of a family is addressed in the finale – no spoilers please! I’ve held out this long and there’s less than 24 hours to go.

  • rad.badger

    I’m only half way through reading everyone’s comments, but I couldn’t hold myself back any longer.

    In the 11th Hour I was psyched. I instantly fell in love with the new Doc, I thought Amelia/Amy was great and we’d be having a great companion despite my hopes that we’d finally have a companion in NewWho who wasn’t a young female from the current era (there was brilliant Donna, but I was hoping for someone from a different time period, or a guy, or a much older or even much younger person). Now however, Amy does nothing but make me angry. She kind of shits (can I say that here?) on my Doctor Who experience.

    She seems like she’s missing some sort of SERIOUS STUFF filter in her brain. Rarely does she react to situations, dangerous ones too, in a way that isn’t a shallow feisty sass retort, and that got old quickly. It’s like she thinks she’s doing a Live Action Role Play, like she doesn’t comprehend the weight of the events going on or consequences of her actions. Within the show, someone needs to address the fact that something seems to be a little wrong with her, and in beginning it seemed like The Doctor was in line with me, that he’s keeping an eye on her but now I’m not sure. It’s likely wishful thinking.

    I honestly hope it’ll be revealed that her character is crazy, I’ve been waiting for it since episode 2 or 3. If there IS a little something wrong with her then I like it. If there is a root and legitimacy to her actions, if she’s a little insane because of the crack in her wall or the convict in her house or because she fantasized about The Doctor for most of her life and thus her current life is just an extension of fantasy, then it’s pretty neat. She saw 4 different psychiatrists growing up, and left them all because they tried to tell her The Doctor wasn’t real. She became obsessed with him with nothing but a few hours in the middle of the night as a 7 year old.

    If a companion goes insane because of The Doctor? Awesome, amazing, unexpected and dark. It would totally excuse going for the same old young female companion thing. Insane companion? Sign me up. However, if there isn’t a story reason and she’s just “fun!spunky!adventurous!” then she, to me, is a very poor character, a one dimensional piece of nerd candy and I’m sick of it.

    I wasn’t sure for a long time who to blame. The writing, the acting, the directing, and I still can’t ever be sure, but I’m blaming it on Karen Gillan.

    She’s not finding and playing opposites. Yeah, you’re scripted to say something funny after you thought you were turning into stone or when you’re about to get dissected by aliens, but to show no undercurrent of fear, or the rare times you do to bounce back in half a second? No good. Shit is serious and the whole time you’re being cute and cracking jokes with no depth within your words? Unless there’s a reason that we see in the finale. If Karen Gillan herself decided Amy Pond was a little crazy, then we need to see more of that, we need to see where she got that from or something. Something needs to change somewhere regarding her, in my opinion. I keep trying to explain it to myself but I cannot manage to find a believable character arc and motivation and blah blah behind her. The few people who I do find on the internet, Doctor Who blogs or whatnot, that don’t like her all blame it on the writing and have giant boners for Karen Gillan herself. This bothers me a great deal. Writers get most/all of the blame when a movie or whatever doesn’t do well and that’s not fair at all. It’s an actor’s job to find the truth in the piece and I know sometimes it isn’t there and it can be hard, but with what she’s given I very much think she could do it. I know it isn’t the directing, because the directors change, and I doubt all the directors would be hard handed with her and not allow her an interpretation. There’s a chance that at the beginning, she was given character notes she was supposed to act on but I don’t believe it. Yes, she’s cute and she’s funny and witty but she has got so little soul… I can make excuses for her and say “but this and that is probably because of this far fetched reason” but they’re just excuses. I don’t like her anymore.

    The only thing of her that bothers me that I can’t blame on her acting is in reference to her clothes. Remember back when the companions would dress for the era, and when they didn’t the other characters in the time period would comment on it? Yeah, me to, but here Amy is always in short shorts/skirts and purple nails and no one ever says a thing.

  • Susan

    Not sure if anyone is still bother to comment on this, but I just found this discussion, so I’m gonna weigh in.

    I have been very sorry to have to conclude that I deeply, deeply dislike Amy’s character. I have read every comment on here, and I am completely baffled by the good things that people say about her. It sounds to me as though people have taken a few clues given us in the very first episode, and built a whole personality, backstory, and motivation to explain her, then applied their theory to everything that Amy says or does. The fact is, none of that is EVER indicated by the actual dialogue or action.

    Why should we have to make up excuses and explanations for her? We don’t need to have a complete MMPI on her or anything – it’s nice to have a character unfold slowly before our eyes, or be revealed in a surprising way in the season finale – but it’s a terrible gamble to present the viewers with a companion who is as unlikeable, unknowable, and unconvincing as a real person as Amy is in the hopes that – 12 episodes later – all will be forgiven when we find out how what we’ve grown to dislike so thoroughly is not really how it is at all. Surprise! Don’t you just love her now?

    No. I don’t. I tried, but I lost interest, and the window of opportunity has passed. Who do I blame for this? The writers, the producers, the actress? Well…yes. Or at least, I blame Steven Moffat, for not writing, editing, or overseeing the process of creating his vision of this character well enough to realize her in a way to win over enough of the audience. I also blame him for choosing sex over skills when he hired a talentless actress to play one of the most important roles in British television, when she was clearly incapable of pulling it off…the mastery of one single wide eyed expression does not an actress make. And while it may seem cruel to blame an actress that is out of her depth for not being able to bring a character to life (especially when too many of the scripts she’s been given are dreck to begin with), the fact remains that she needed to give some serious thought to how she was going to play this part convincingly, and I see no thought having been put into it at all.

  • Lisa

    maybe MaryAnn should pose this question again, post finale!

  • Laughing Bunny

    Hate her. Too bad, because I do have a fondness for redheads, but after Rose and Martha I don’t want to see a skinny tart throwing herself at the Doctor.

  • Liz

    I think as well, there’s been a lot of forced “Love Amy Pond!!!!” from Moffat and Co, as if we’re meant to simply take their word for it that she’s awesome and I don’t think she’s lived up to the hype they’ve created around her. (I don’t know if ANY character could really) Let the viewers get attached in their own time, make us care through the episodes, you know? Forcing it down my throat only makes me have the opposite reaction. I think she comes off way too cocky because the writers are too cocky and sure about her appeal.

    One thing I used to love about listening to the commentary on something like ‘Buffy’ is that the writers always made jokes and owned up to things that were a wee bit shabby (“Hellmouth, Hellmouth, Hellmouth” was a reoccurring phrase, admitting that they sometimes had to cut corners to squeeze the story in or move it along) Phil Collinson was the only ‘Who’ exec that I’ve ever heard do the same – in the commentary for ‘Girl in the Fireplace’, he made gentle fun of the fact that Doc 10 says they can’t use the TARDIS cos they’re “part of events now.” and cops to the fact that it’s a load of rubbish and just thrown in to validate the next scene. I honestly had to quit listening to ‘Who’ commentaries cos of the non-stop hubris and constant back-patting. Hey, I don’t expect 100% perfection, 100% for the time and I think you have to swallow a certain amount of “who-oey” (That’s ‘phooey’ for ‘Who’ :-) ) otherwise it’d be nothing but 39 mins of explaination and 4 mins of actual DOING but I don’t understand why those involved couldn’t bring themselves to just admit it!

    I thought that might be different with Moffat but it’s not. It’s all fine and well to love your ‘baby’ but to never acknowlege it’s faults is annoying and it’s set the character of Amy in particular up for a big fall. Don’t tell me to “love Amy Pond!!!!!”, SHOW me why I should, instead of beating me over the head with it.

  • Alison

    I think that the actress is a lovely young woman, however, I don’t find the character the least bit interesting. Not her fault, I’m sure, as the stories seem unable to decide whether she’s preternaturally wise or simply jaded like so many in her peer-group.
    Despite the sort of built-in sympathy cards (missing parents, absent aunt), I don’t feel any connection to the character at all and nothing she has done has provided the sort of ‘aha’ moment that I felt upon hearing Martha retort ‘We might not.’ when the Doctor suggested they might die.
    I am so trying to enjoy this series, but, I find it brittle in some way that I cannot describe. The moments of true engagement have been so few and far between, it’s tough to not chuck it all and give the space in my heart over completely to ‘Merlin.’

  • History of Bubbles

    Well, I’m glad I’m not the only person who’s not getting much substance from Ms. Pond. I just can’t get a bead on her. I thought little Amelia showed more inner life and character, and even had more chemistry with Matt’s Doctor. Too bad there’s a minefield of issues attendant to the idea of a little girl climbing into a box with a strange man—especially with a show that has a sizable audience of impressionable children—so we couldn’t have her instead.

    Like the others posting here, I’d be all about having a crazy companion, but with Amy the show winks at the idea of her being “mad, impossible Amy Pond” without ever really bringing it into play. If she’s really unbalanced, I want to see her do something outrageous, or act inconveniently at times. Do something that actually affects the plot. As it is, her *actions* are the same as any generic companion composite, just that she says sassy things.

    I wonder if many of the people who think Amy is just the most fascinating companion ever are just paying more attention because she’s hot.

  • Blake

    I can’t stand Amy. She has no skills, no persionality, nothing. She just stands about in every episode and looks lost. Sure she looks nice but I want a heck of a lot more than that from a companion, can’t wait to see the back of her.

  • Zack

    I agree Blake. Amy is an empty shell of a companion. Stack her up against Sarah Jane Smith, Leela, heck even Jo Grant and there is no contest. The Producers clearly think dress up a cute redhead in a tight skirt and we will instantly love her right?, wrong.

  • Bang on! And what’s with pretending to be a Victorian governess? And all that crap about being a Dalek. And dying?

    I mean, what gives? This is 2010, right? We expect more from Doctor Who than this!

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