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such a nasty woman | by maryann johanson

from Facebook: yes, the creative apocalypse is still on

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  • RogerBW

    Bad creativity drives out good. And the kiddies can still be hypnotised into buying the latest plastic trash, though it’s harder than it used to be.

  • Danielm80

    I’d be really interested in hearing your objections to the piece. Can you mention a few, or would that require a rant that’s hundreds of paragraphs long?

  • Tonio Kruger

    Of course, a lot of noncreative people are still struggling with economic woes as well but I guess that’s a story for another day…

  • Bluejay

    Should we feel bad for only discussing creative people in response to an article about creative people? :-)

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  • Tonio Kruger

    No. But it often seems like the only woes creative people wish to discuss nowadays are woes that affect them. And while I don’t believe in golden ages, there used to be a time when creative people took pride in worrying about other people too.

    But then again my favorite cousin is a former dancer with Ballet Folklorico, my second favorite cousin is a part-time musician, my best friend is a part-time poetess and my late father once talked about wanting to be a writer when he was growing up. So I obviously know little about creative people. ;-)

  • Bluejay

    I hope you’re also posting comments on websites devoted to the issues of farmers and miners, reminding them that writers and artists are struggling too. You know, for balance. ;-)

    And I find it ungenerous to suggest that folks here are only concerned with the problems of their demographic, just because we don’t constantly discuss world issues on a movie review website.

  • Danielm80

    MaryAnn is a film critic, writing on a film site about an issue that affects the film community. She has both professional and personal experience that directly relates to the article. One of the purposes of this site is to provide exactly that sort of informed opinion. I don’t understand why you’re faulting her for following her job description. Perhaps you’re confusing her with Paul Krugman.

    She’s not unsympathetic to broader social issues just because she didn’t provide a comprehensive analysis of the labor situation in a brief Facebook comment.

    Also: Would you go to a meeting of a cancer support group and tell them to spend more time discussing the AIDS crisis?

  • He presumes that anyone who calls themselves self-employed as a creative person is making a decent living as a creative person. He says average income is up and presumes it’s actually evenly divided among everyone (even as later he says that most of the rise has gone to the 1 percent). He makes no attempt to understand *how much* work it takes to make a small amount of money at anything creative. (Nowadays you have to do your own marketing and PR as well as producing the creative work, for instance.)

    Just a few off the top of my head…

  • Except there is frequently wide-ranging conversation here that discusses issues beyond the latest blow-’em-up.

  • Bluejay

    Of course, I immediately realized that after I posted, but didn’t get a chance to correct what I said. Sorry.

    Tonio seems to be paying only selective attention to what goes on here, and takes us to task when we’re not discussing his favorite high-horse topics at any particular moment.

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  • bronxbee

    another problem is the focus on musicians pretty much to the exclusion of most other creative areas… it’s like saying because damien hirst and other big name “current” artists are represented by galleries and agents with a big online presence and their work is selling in the millions, that all painters and sculptors are doing well… when nothing is probably further from the truth, especially among representational artists. the influence of those agents and galleries on the internet has actually served to narrow the buyers’ taste in “art” to a narrow range that fits only certain criteria. same is true in writing…

  • Hank Graham

    EVERYTHING is awesome!!! (Bum bah!)

  • Danielm80

    When Julia Roberts and Tom Hanks were campaigning for fair wages for actors, they actually hurt the cause a little, because people said, “Why do you need a pay raise? You make a fortune!” The big stars had to point out, over and over again, that they’re not the typical actor.

  • Tonio Kruger

    Our ignorance of history makes us libel our own times. People have always been like this.
    –Gustave Flaubert

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