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from Facebook: these are the Star Wars spoilers you’re looking for


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  • SaltHarvest

    Finn’s counterparts (imo): Qui-Gon Jinn, Mace Windu, and Anakin Skywalker. Of the new characters in TFA, his future development seems has the greatest interest to me at present. His name is at least a double entendre.

  • Okay, I’ll bite: What about “Finn” is a double entendre?

  • SaltHarvest

    Finn (the end), Rhymes with Jinn, the nationality, Huckleberry ____

  • Bluejay

    What do all of those things tell you about his character?

  • SaltHarvest

    Breaking with established (first) orders and assimilating a new name, new clothes (he could just as easily be called a turncoat), …

  • None of that is a double entendre.

  • SaltHarvest

    I suppose not in your instance. Oh well.

  • But they’re not double meanings that are meaningful in the story we’ve been told. What does runaway stormtrooper Finn have to with Finland? How does that aid your understanding of his journey?

  • SaltHarvest

    The Finland reference is more about the complexion of the character, or the (possible) conflict therein.

  • Bluejay

    I see, very interesting. Finn’s dark skin is actually the opposite of the complexion of someone from Finland, thereby setting up a possible Dark Side-Light Side identity crisis within him. Also, the fact that “Finn” suggests “Finland” also points to the possibility that Finn is Lando’s son or grandson. Therefore when the other stormtrooper (and later Kylo) yells “Traitor!” at him, it actually echoes the way Lando was a traitor to Han! Which brings us full circle because Finn actually is NOT a traitor to Han, so it sets the balance right.

    Also notice that “Rey” and “Ren” both begin with “Re,” which has two immediately obvious meanings: “Re” being the second note on the solfege scale, famously followed by “a drop of golden sun” in the musical “Sound of Music,” which connects to the fact that (1) Rey is really a source of hope or brightness in this story (literally a Rey of light), and (2) Kylo Ren‘s forces literally sucked out the power from a golden sun. And the other meaning of “Re” is that it’s shorthand for “regarding,” which is very resonant especially in that scene where they REGARD each other across their crossed lightsabers.

    http://www.infinitenites.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/i-all-makes-sense.jpg

  • Danielm80
  • Bluejay

    Also, Han rhymes with Obi-Wan, so even way back in 1977 Lucas was already suggesting a connection. (One character names his kid after the other.) Ben rhymes with Ren — and also with Sven, the REYndeer from Frozen. (Sven = Finnish name, Frozen = white = stormtrooper, Zen = Jedi mindset, etc.)

    http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/Keanu-Reeves-Meme-Whoa-02.jpg

  • SaltHarvest

    Not the direction I was looking in, but as long as you enjoy yourself.

  • Bluejay

    Oh, I’m enjoying, don’t worry. Did you also notice that “Rey” and “Ren” are similar EXCEPT for the last letters, “y” and “n”? Obviously those stand for Yes and No: Rey is positive and open and says “yes” to the Force, while Ren is negative and closed and says “no” to his father and to the Light Side. This is obviously a reference to John Lennon first being attracted to Yoko Ono because of her art exhibit embracing the positive: a ladder leading up to the tiny word “YES” printed on the ceiling. John chooses positivity and love, and he eventually writes the song “Imagine” which clearly rhymes with Jinn and Finn. All the Light-Side connections are there if you just look with an open mind, man.

    http://cdn.meme.am/instances/63331218.jpg

  • SaltHarvest

    Fascinating… anything else?

  • Bluejay

    Oh, I could make these up all day. (Day rhymes with Rey!) But go ahead, you can have a turn.

  • SaltHarvest

    Pass/repeat: 4 days ago. Your turn. I don’t mind if you want to continue doing that.

  • Bluejay

    Nothing new, then? Oh well. I’ll look forward to your future theories. :-)

  • SaltHarvest

    I told you where to look if you wanted something new. I buzzed that tower 3 times already.

  • Bluejay

    “Buzzed” = Buzzfeed
    “Buzzing the tower” = King Kong reference

    So I should look for Buzzfeed articles mentioning both Star Wars and King Kong? Wow, even MORE connections! Very cool! Got it.

    …hey, and I found this! Very relevant to current hostility towards journalists as well. If you think about it, The Force Awakens is obviously about the decline of journalism. There were no reporters on Starkiller Base.

  • SaltHarvest

    The link is pretty hilarious…

  • Danielm80

    You realize, don’t you, that if you keep posting these comments, SaltHarvest will keep replying, and this will eventually turn into a discussion of ethics in gaming journalism? Maybe it’s time to stop feeding the troll? The yes and no theory was pretty brilliant, though.

  • Bluejay

    I had planned on stopping before your comment. I didn’t reply to his last post for 20 whole minutes!

    And thank you, I think the Y/N theory is one of my better ones.

  • SaltHarvest

    No, I’m not sure he realizes he’s carrying on…, but this is the direction Bluejay seems to want to go in…

    I guess you thought the QZ “can’t have nice things” article was silly too.

  • Bluejay

    this is the direction Bluejay seems to want to go in

    Hey, once you connected Finn to Finland, you made it clear that anything goes. ;-)

  • SaltHarvest

    I have several posts counter to the “anything goes” interpretation, or better yet, some posts point to another one. Not that your brain working on those other directions is without benefit…

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