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from Facebook: I, biggest Indy fan ever, do not require a fifth Indiana Jones movie


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  • Bluejay

    My first thought is that the age thing IS an issue for me. He’s 73 now, and will probably be 75/76 when they get around to filming for release in 2019. If Indy is still going to be a very physical character who goes through all the brutal situations the previous films put him through, it’s hard for me to picture it. I would hope they’d take that into account and turn him into more of a mentor for a younger character. I bet she’d kick ass. :-)

    (I wonder, too, if Ford made the same kind of deal he did for Star Wars: he’ll star in another, provided his character dies.)

    And yes, we need more original stories too.

  • RogerBW

    They tried to do that in Indy 4, but made the terminal mistake of casting charisma vortex Shia LaBoeuf as the younger character.

    I don’t want to see this. I don’t want to see a Ben-Hur remake either.

  • Tonio Kruger

    If you have already seen the 1959 version of Ben-Hur, you’ve already seen a Ben-Hur remake. It’s just rarely thought of as a remake because it’s more famous than earlier cinematic versions of the same story.

    However, all kidding aside, I get your point.

  • RogerBW

    Oh, I know.

    Insert “another” if you prefer.

    Much as The Maltese Falcon is a reason I don’t call for a total ban on all remakes forever.
    Though I think it would be very good for Hollywood to spend a year doing nothing that was part of an existing property.

  • Bluejay

    I don’t call for a total ban on all remakes forever.

    Just temporarily, until we can figure out what the heck is going on. ;-)

  • Hank Graham

    I dunno–calling out Indiana Jones because it’s not doing anything new strikes me as somewhat missing the point. The question is, can they do anything new with the something-old cultural stuff of Indiana Jones? Raiders, after all, was cheerfully grabbing every bit of old 30’s and 40’s pop culture it could, while giving it a brand new sass.

    I would argue that since they do NOT have to kowtow to the writing vortex that is George Lucas any more, they might be able to. The biggest regret I have about these films is that they didn’t film the Frank Darabont script that Spielberg, Ford, Marshall, and Kennedy all wanted to do, and they let Lucas veto that, while also letting him raid it for most of the best lines of Karen Allen’s character, to give them to Shia LaBoeuf.

    So, yeah, surprise us–but if you can do that within the constraints of an Indiana Jones movie, I’m good with that.

  • Raiders, after all, was cheerfully grabbing every bit of old 30’s and 40’s pop culture it could, while giving it a brand new sass.

    But Indy is much older now. Even if the movie pretends the character is much younger than the actor, this new movie will have to be set at least in the 60s; tracking with the difference between Ford’s age in 1981 (when the first film was released) and 2019 means this new one would be set in the 70s. Unless Spielberg makes a movie unlike anything he’s done before, he will not be able to make a movie set in the 1960s or 70s evoke the spirit of the 30s and 40s.

  • Danielm80

    It would actually be interesting to see a series that takes place over multiple decades, with each episode serving as a pastiche of the pop culture of that period. Alan Moore tried something like that in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comic books. But Indiana Jones seemed to work better in his original time period.

    Maybe the next movie will be about the loss of the spirit of the ’30s and ’40s—and, possibly, its resurgence, especially if this movie is embraced by a new generation of fans.

  • Hank Graham

    And then Spielberg announces that the writer of the new movie will be David Koepp.

    *sigh* Chances of it surprising us are now zero, and I’m joining you in a feeling of no, we don’t need this.

  • Hank Graham

    You’ve touched directly on my point: I keep hoping Spielberg will make a movie unlike anything he’s done before. Wouldn’t that be great?

  • RogerBW

    Hmm. Yes, all right, he wrote the original Mission: Impossible and Indy #4… but he also wrote Premium Rush.

  • bronxbee

    i *loved* Premium Rush. the original MI movie was pretty decent; and indy 4… well, it *was* an Indiana Jones movie, but a bit baroque and OTT… it had its moments.

  • Tonio Kruger

    Well, the late Pauline Kael liked the dance numbers in 1941 enough that I find it quite surprisingly that Spielberg never tried to do a musical. Apart from the Busby Berkeley homage he did at the beginning of IJ&tToD, which was pretty good for a Busby Berkeley homage that was not done by Mel Brooks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DeURx3mYck

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