watch it: “David Tennant & John Barrowman Kiss - SD Comic Con '09”
Yup, they really do:
(more below the ad... scroll down...)
Oh my god, the screams. David Tennant must have gone deaf.
I think it’s totally adorable that John Barrowman appears to be as bowled over by a kiss from David Tennant as any of us would be...
(Oh, and I love the guy in the crowd who shouts, “I love you, Russell!”)
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Comic Con
| David Tennant
| Doctor Who
| John Barrowman
| Russell T Davies
| San Diego Comic Con
| Torchwood
(links here are good for finding recent posts, but will not be fully functional till I finish tagging 11 years worth of reviews and blog entries; I'll post a notice when tagging is done)













comments
posted by Accounting Ninja (Mon Jul 27 09, 5:03PM)
His reaction is SO ADORABLE! The little scream and fall-down! Aw
Don't worry, John, I can totally relate:)
posted by Gail (Mon Jul 27 09, 5:49PM)
Well, that's it. I'm going to Comic-Con next year.
posted by D (Mon Jul 27 09, 6:44PM)
He. John Barrowman reminded me a little of Freddy Mercury in this video. In a good way. :)
posted by Weimlady (Mon Jul 27 09, 7:12PM)
John is SUCH a fangirl! LOL!
posted by Anne-Kari (Mon Jul 27 09, 8:27PM)
Priceless. Absolutely priceless.
posted by Victor Plenty (Mon Jul 27 09, 10:24PM)
Barrowman rather delightfully supports my hypothesis that humans would be naturally bisexual in the absence of culture and other influences pushing them toward exclusively hetero- or homosexual orientations. It makes sense to me that this would extend to being naturally omnisexual, if we ever encounter compatible nonhuman species.
It may be difficult to see how any human could become sexually attracted to a really alien alien being, like the species in District 9. But maybe, when the time comes, we'll find out love really does conquer all.
posted by Matthew (Tue Jul 28 09, 4:23AM)
Victor, Barrowman himself believes that he is pretty exclusively gay. I'm not sure that he would dispute that your theory applies to a lot of people, but I think he'd say it's unlikely to ever apply to him (I think he said "never say never" in an interview, but its pretty clear that his preference is strongly for men). There's an interesting documentary called the The Making of Me where Barrowman explores the idea of where his sexuality comes from.
The pressure from society to be heterosexual is so great, even now, that you have to be pretty sure that you're gay to describe yourself that way. I'm sure there are a lot of people who self-identify as straight who would be bisexual in a different society, but I'm not convinced that it goes the other way that often, although it is possible that some gay men and lesbians reject the bisexual part of themselves for the sake of maintaining a strong sense of who they are - although even then I'd guess that their basic attraction to people of the same sex is what's strongest.
Captain Jack Harkness, on the other hand, is partly Russell T Davies' exploration of the idea that, in the future, sexuality will be fluid for most people. As far as I know, Russell T Davies also considers himself to be gay and nothing else, but he's also interested in challenging the idea of rigid sexuality. All of the Torchwood characters do this, to an extent. However, I think Davies would still believe that some people in the 51st Century would still be exclusively homosexual or heterosexual, it's just that most people wouldn't be bothered about being in-between. There's an interesting Davies interview about sexuality here, talking about his series Bob and Rose:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/2001/sep/02/features.review67
Ianto's conversation with his sister in Children of Earth is small reprise of this theme.
All of this reminds me of this bit of Peep Shoe (the internal monologue is in brackets):
posted by NorthernStar (Tue Jul 28 09, 5:34AM)
Mmmmm....Skinny!Tummy porn.
posted by Victor Plenty (Tue Jul 28 09, 6:03AM)
Matthew, this hypothesis I mentioned (I doubt I'm the one who invented it; it's "mine" only in the sense that I agree with it) is not meant to tell any particular person what their sexual orientation ought to be. There is always lots of natural variation between people.
Also, my praise for Barrowman has nothing to do with saying he ought to be any particular orientation. (Not my place to tell others whom they should or shouldn't find attractive.) It's about his skill as an actor in presenting a convincingly omnisexual character, and also about the audience's enthusiastic response to that portrayal.
Thank you, Matthew, for the link to that fascinating article on Davies. His willingness to open his mind is admirable. The ideas he develops in his new series speak to the possibilities for greater human happiness when we start to form our relationships more on the basis of love, and less on worry about how others might label us.
posted by Accounting Ninja (Tue Jul 28 09, 9:12AM)
I think human sexuality is a spectrum, rather than a rigid designation. Some people are on the extreme ends of the spectrum (very straight or very gay) and lots fall in between to varying degrees. It might be the same with aliens too; some people (and aliens, if they are anything like us) may be able to have sex outside their species, and others would stick to their own.
The absence of cultural influences regarding sexuality would result in no concept of "shame" regarding sexual orientation. Also, no hatred for those with different preferences. I'd love to live to see that day.
posted by Victor Plenty (Wed Jul 29 09, 6:10AM)
We seem to be mostly agreeing with each other, with slightly different phrasing, so I won't take issue with anything that's been said, just expand a little on the same themes.
The phrase "naturally bisexual" might not be the most accurate description for what I'm trying to say. Perhaps bisexual has more negative connotations than I'm aware of.
My thoughts arise from observing that we humans are naturally social creatures. (Some individuals may feel antisocial to one degree or another, and it's their right to feel that way, but wanting zero contact with other humans is extremely rare.) Most of us enjoy the ability to build relationships with many different kinds of people.
We are also naturally sexual. (Again, there's room for every conceivable variation, and even feeling totally uninterested in sex is not something I'm prepared to call "wrong," but it is exceedingly rare.) Most of us like sex, a lot.
When I put these observations together, and then re-evaluate the spectrum of "natural" and "unnatural" preferences, it seems to me that an inability to find someone attractive, merely because of their gender, is more "unnatural" than being able to feel attraction toward compatible people of both genders.
Part of what I'm trying to do here is disarm the word "unnatural," which has been far too often used to attack GLBT people and others with unpopular sexual orientations. Maybe it's too early, with so many people still openly expressing prejudice, but I hope my intended meaning can still break through all that.
posted by Les Carr (Wed Jul 29 09, 7:25AM)
Sounds like it's time for MaryAnn to review Humpday.
posted by Lisa (Wed Jul 29 09, 10:41AM)
I don't know about omnisexual (remember Captain John Harper and that poodle) y'know does the dog get a say?
that's just animal abuse to me
posted by Victor Plenty (Wed Jul 29 09, 12:28PM)
Omnisexual applies only to sapient beings, intellectually capable of giving fully informed consent, of course. I thought that was obvious enough not to need mentioning, in the context of Doctor Who, but apparently I was mistaken.
posted by allochthon (Wed Jul 29 09, 6:51PM)
Victor, I've been told that there is a fair amount of prejudice against bisexuality in the gay community itself. The implication being that the bi person "can't commit."
It doesn't make any sense to me, but so say my gay and bi friends.
As for me, I believe there's a spectrum of gender, as well as sexual orientation, and the more diversity the better.
posted by Lisa (Sun Aug 02 09, 12:20AM)
you're funny Victor!
posted by Victor Plenty (Sun Aug 02 09, 1:19AM)
Lisa, I'll take that as a compliment. Thanks!
Allochthon, now that you mention it, I seem to recall hearing similar prejudices about bisexuals, but I am certainly not using the term in that sense.
All I mean to describe is a person who finds people of both genders equally attractive as potential partners. It doesn't matter whether they seek a long term exclusive commitment or a short term fling. Gay and straight people seek one or both of those things all the time.
Anybody can have a conflict with any romantic partner when they realize they aren't both looking for the same level of commitment.