My first thought?

Fuck this movie. Fuck it right in its "bumhole".

I am so sick of these bullshit movies with their fantasy fuckbait portrayals of pussy, er, I mean women and stupid cardboard Asshole Guys and Beleaguered Nice Guys.

AND REALLY? We need the whole Steve Urkel/Stephan thing goin' on?

"Aren’t you tired of hearing yourselves bitch about how girls don’t like you because you’re too nice and polite and kind?" - MAJ

Ha. No. The Nice Guys I know never tire of this.

Ah, yes, I remember those days, back when I lived in a country where women looked at me as if I had done something wrong by saying hello. And if perchance she condescended to converse with me, and if perchance she agreed to hang out with me, and if perchance she didn't stand me up:

Girl: What would you like to do?
Me: Anything you like.
Girl: Let me consult my astrology charts and see what would be good for us.
Me: You believe in that stuff?

Too opinionated intellectually for the ones who want doormats and not opinionated enough about daily life for the "heartless bitches."

However, since my relocation to a country where the worst thing that will happen when I say hello to a girl is she will giggle at my accent, I've spent enough time socially with enough women that I've learned moderation. I'm politer intellectually because I don't want to hurt their feelings and more assertive about what I like to do because if I'm not they might drag me to karoke, and listening to me sing is a torture I reserve for my enemies when I want to drag out the secrets of their evil plots without calling in Jack Bauer.

And I do wonder if a lack of cross gender socialization is the root of the problem. Both guys like me, who grew up only getting to talk with girls when they wanted help with their homework, and jocks who only talk with girls under the influence of beer and treat sex as a stress relief before going back to the world of Guys, end up unsocialized and emotionally unintelligent by women's simultanously vague and exacting standards.

Anyway, I feel like I'm now spending enough time with enough women to someday hit that critical mass of experience that will someday allow me to understand them.

@Paul: "Anyway, I feel like I'm now spending enough time with enough women to someday hit that critical mass of experience that will someday allow me to understand them."

here's a clue: we're people. we're not gingerbread, cookie cutter people... we're just people. take us as individuals and stop trying to lump us into this formula that you can "understand" and maybe you'll really get somewhere... like a connection with another human being. gender isn't destiny nor is it the key to total understanding.

I hated the girl he's chasing. If he's such a 'nice guy' then why is he so obsessed with this girl? The only connection he seems to make with her is that he's decided she's the most likely person to jump his bone. I hope the movie concentrates more on the relationship he has with his alter ego. That looked quite fun... (though Fight Club obviously did it rather better) I couldn't care less if he gets the girl.

Ah, but society really does try so hard with its cookie cutters to stamp off all our edges. Drugging kids for being restless in school, scolding boys for crying or girls for yelling, inventing insults for women who act too much like men and men who act too much like women. Lots of people accept the cookie cutter, worship it, and call the cook God.

I remember a weird time in my life when two friends of mine were living together. Every time they had a fight, she came to me and said, "Why did he do this?" I said, "I don't know." "But you're a guy." "But I'm a straight bookwormish nerd and he's a bisexual Goth poet. Just because we play chess together doesn't mean I know why he's arguing with you." "But you're a guy." So I give in and make a guess, knowing that he's off to one of his women friends asking her why did his girlfriend do this, because his assumes a woman understands a woman better than he does. I know this because with 24 hours that woman is going to call me to compare notes. This happened about once a month or so for a year until they broke up.

ha! I like your cookie God and I'd like to subscribe to its newsletter.

All the more reason to talk to people as individuals. Geez, a relationship where no one ever really talks to one another and assumes they need translators sounds like a nightmare. I hope they've both learned their lesson.

This sort of reminds me of a story I read where a girl starts to change herself so she can become something the object of her affection is more attracted to(following "The Rules", etc.). This seems like a male version, but with a Fight Club twist. As another commenter said, hopefully they focus more on the alter ego bits, since these types of movies tend to bore me, the romantic interest is almost always generic and it's always baffling exactly what they have on common that makes the protagonist lover him/her so much aside from some idealized version of the person in their own head.

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This kid is oustanding :) . Just saw the trailer at http://trailers-watch.com/ . Hilarious!

"But I'm a straight bookwormish nerd and he's a bisexual Goth poet. Just because we play chess together doesn't mean I know why he's arguing with you."

Thanks. I've had to settle for putting him in a novel I'm writing.

Thanks. I've had to settle for putting him in a novel I'm writing.

I would so buy that book.