People who upload material to YouTube that doesn’t belong to them -- such as old movie trailers -- and disable embedding. It’s not yours to hoard, dude. I appreciate that it takes time to rip material from DVDs, but still: uncool.
how's that any different than posting youtube links on your site to videos of old movie trailers that don't belong to you? like Jason and the Argonauts?
I'm not being sarcastic, I really don't understand what you're complaining about
Copyright infringement is the only thing that makes YouTube worthwhile.
You don't by any chance work for Viacom, do you?
While I can certainly understand independent content creators wanting to disable embedding to protect their work, it really doesn't make sense for those who have nothing to protect. Though they may think that by disabling embedding, their copyright infringement will be less likely to be detected.
It's not necessarily the uploader who's insisting on embed-disabled videos. I did a project for my editing class this spring, where the assignment was to reedit a scene from Million Dollar Baby. I uploaded it to YouTube, and - because the copyright was claimed by the original owner - the video could not be embedded to the class message boards.
I’m with you on this and ranks up there with those who take screen dumps from DVDs then put a copyright print for their website over the image. Fair do’s it takes effort to take screen dumps and upload trailers but when you don’t own the copyright then it sucks.
People are so rude these days, taking media to use on their own sites without asking or naming the individual who did the work, or providing a link back to the source for feedback purposes.
I’m with you on this and ranks up there with those who take screen dumps from DVDs then put a copyright print for their website over the image
A lot of people do that because of how rampant hot linking is on the internet. You can use a hotlink stopping script or app but they're not perfect, so if people are gonna use your bandwidth you may as well get credit for it!
I had desktop wallpapers on my site that were being hot linked and used as myspace and youtube profile backgrounds. Cost me 1.5MB bandwidth every time they got a visit. Lucky for me they weren't popular people or it would have added up real quick.
how's that any different than posting youtube links on your site to videos of old movie trailers that don't belong to you? like Jason and the Argonauts?
Trailers are advertising for movies. They are *intended* to be seen. Which is why it makes no sense -- as I have complained before -- when studios disable embedding for trailers for their own movies. Don't they *want* site owners like me to give them free advertising by posting their trailers?
Do you not understand the purpose of advertising?
But the only purpose anyone could have for ripping old trailers from DVDs and posting them on YouTube while disabling embedding is to beneft himself. The guy I linked to above doesn't even offer any commentary on the trailers. He's doing nothing but posting other material that doesn't belong to him and not allowing other people to share it... which is sort of the purpose of YouTube in the first place. (Though I can't quite see how it benefits him -- there's no advertising on his channel. And if you just want to rack up views, then the clear choice would be to let other people embed your videos so they're viewable by as many people as possible.)
There may not be anything legally wrong with what he's doing, but it does seem mysteriously rude and purposeless.
People are so rude these days, taking media to use on their own sites without asking or naming the individual who did the work, or providing a link back to the source for feedback purposes.
how's that any different than posting youtube links on your site to videos of old movie trailers that don't belong to you? like Jason and the Argonauts?
I'm not being sarcastic, I really don't understand what you're complaining about
She's not preventing anyone else from embedding links to those trailers, now is she?
What she's complaining about is people who are posting copyrighted material that isn't theirs, then preventing others from embedding that link, as if it IS theirs and they need to protect their precious IP.
A lot of people do that because of how rampant hot linking is on the internet. You can use a hotlink stopping script or app but they're not perfect, so if people are gonna use your bandwidth you may as well get credit for it!
Which has nothing at all to do with Youtube users disabling embedding for videos posted on Youtube. It's Youtube's bandwidth! And they don't mind people embedding videos and using their bandwidth.
There may not be anything legally wrong with what he's doing, but it does seem mysteriously rude and purposeless.
I'm with you MAJ. It's stupid and contrary to the spirit of posting it in the first place. "Sure this is copyrighted, but I think people deserve to see it. Culture wants to be free! BUT ONLY ON MY YOUTUBE PAGE! CUS IT'S MINE (even though it's not)!"
What Ken Patterson said. Most of the time, the studio in question has discovered the content and had embedding disabled, as well as instituting the pop up ads over the video window. That's their new thing, because they just can't combat all of the copyrighted material out there.
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posted by doa766 (Sun Jul 11 10, 7:57PM)
how's that any different than posting youtube links on your site to videos of old movie trailers that don't belong to you? like Jason and the Argonauts?
I'm not being sarcastic, I really don't understand what you're complaining about
posted by amanohyo (Sun Jul 11 10, 8:02PM)
At least you can still embed this
posted by Patrick (Sun Jul 11 10, 8:24PM)
Copyright infringement is the only thing that makes YouTube worthwhile.
If all the copyright protected material was removed from YouTube, what would we have? An online version of America's Funniest Home Videos. Pass.
posted by thatwillperson (Sun Jul 11 10, 9:15PM)
While I can certainly understand independent content creators wanting to disable embedding to protect their work, it really doesn't make sense for those who have nothing to protect. Though they may think that by disabling embedding, their copyright infringement will be less likely to be detected.
posted by Ken Patterson (Sun Jul 11 10, 9:41PM)
It's not necessarily the uploader who's insisting on embed-disabled videos. I did a project for my editing class this spring, where the assignment was to reedit a scene from Million Dollar Baby. I uploaded it to YouTube, and - because the copyright was claimed by the original owner - the video could not be embedded to the class message boards.
posted by Andy (Mon Jul 12 10, 2:28AM)
I’m with you on this and ranks up there with those who take screen dumps from DVDs then put a copyright print for their website over the image. Fair do’s it takes effort to take screen dumps and upload trailers but when you don’t own the copyright then it sucks.
posted by NorthernStar (Mon Jul 12 10, 4:56AM)
I can understand why they do it.
People are so rude these days, taking media to use on their own sites without asking or naming the individual who did the work, or providing a link back to the source for feedback purposes.
Where have good manners gone to?
posted by Shaun (Mon Jul 12 10, 9:03AM)
A lot of people do that because of how rampant hot linking is on the internet. You can use a hotlink stopping script or app but they're not perfect, so if people are gonna use your bandwidth you may as well get credit for it!
I had desktop wallpapers on my site that were being hot linked and used as myspace and youtube profile backgrounds. Cost me 1.5MB bandwidth every time they got a visit. Lucky for me they weren't popular people or it would have added up real quick.
posted by MaryAnn (Mon Jul 12 10, 9:48AM)
Trailers are advertising for movies. They are *intended* to be seen. Which is why it makes no sense -- as I have complained before -- when studios disable embedding for trailers for their own movies. Don't they *want* site owners like me to give them free advertising by posting their trailers?
Do you not understand the purpose of advertising?
But the only purpose anyone could have for ripping old trailers from DVDs and posting them on YouTube while disabling embedding is to beneft himself. The guy I linked to above doesn't even offer any commentary on the trailers. He's doing nothing but posting other material that doesn't belong to him and not allowing other people to share it... which is sort of the purpose of YouTube in the first place. (Though I can't quite see how it benefits him -- there's no advertising on his channel. And if you just want to rack up views, then the clear choice would be to let other people embed your videos so they're viewable by as many people as possible.)
There may not be anything legally wrong with what he's doing, but it does seem mysteriously rude and purposeless.
Embedding a YouTube video *is* a link back.
posted by CB (Mon Jul 12 10, 2:23PM)
She's not preventing anyone else from embedding links to those trailers, now is she?
What she's complaining about is people who are posting copyrighted material that isn't theirs, then preventing others from embedding that link, as if it IS theirs and they need to protect their precious IP.
Which has nothing at all to do with Youtube users disabling embedding for videos posted on Youtube. It's Youtube's bandwidth! And they don't mind people embedding videos and using their bandwidth.
I'm with you MAJ. It's stupid and contrary to the spirit of posting it in the first place. "Sure this is copyrighted, but I think people deserve to see it. Culture wants to be free! BUT ONLY ON MY YOUTUBE PAGE! CUS IT'S MINE (even though it's not)!"
posted by Tyler Foster (Mon Jul 12 10, 2:40PM)
What Ken Patterson said. Most of the time, the studio in question has discovered the content and had embedding disabled, as well as instituting the pop up ads over the video window. That's their new thing, because they just can't combat all of the copyrighted material out there.
posted by MC (Mon Jul 12 10, 3:33PM)
See, I get mad when they do this to music videos too... because in theory, they are promotional media as well.