Scarlett Johansson as an alien sex predator loose in Scotland, preying on men. It’s erotic!
I will have something to say about this soon, as you may well imagine.
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RogerBW
Mon, Mar 17, 2014 12:45pm
Various people who’ve seen previews swear there’s more to this than “hot babe kills men in a variety of disgusting ways”, so I’m trying to keep an open mind.
(Yeah, I know I come over as kind of cynical when I’m commenting here, but every time a film is bad I’m disappointed. Film can be good, can be fun and thought-provoking and exciting. Every film could be good. But instead we get millions of dollars spent on something that nobody, certainly not the cast or the crew, really cares about — except the brainwashed suckers who rush in here when some other site tells them that their precious film has got a less-than-perfect review.)
(Haven’t been able to play the trailer yet due to technical issues.)
Beowulf
Tue, Mar 18, 2014 2:27pm
“Every film could be good.” Impossible. As Theodore Sturgeon once famously said, “Yes, 90% of SF is crap….but, then, 90% of everything is crap.” Heaven and Hell cannot exist without the other.
Was it Sturgeon who said the 90% thing? I thought it was Harlan Ellison – either way, it is hardly a factual statement. Bringing theology into it elevates the discussion to even more peculiar places…..
I meant it less as theology than saying that it is difficult to say something is good or bad without having something to compare it to. I met Sturgeon in the ’70s when he was a guest at our convention and he said it.
I read the book this weekend and plan to see the film as a result. (Slight spoilers ahead.)
The book is not erotic (but it is physical). It’s not particularly horrific – any more than factory farming is horrific, and that’s kind of the point: what cruelty do you accommodate, whose misogyny do you overlook and who gets to be called “human”? I hope that the film is as bleak as the book.
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Various people who’ve seen previews swear there’s more to this than “hot babe kills men in a variety of disgusting ways”, so I’m trying to keep an open mind.
I’ve seen the film.
Oh well.
(Yeah, I know I come over as kind of cynical when I’m commenting here, but every time a film is bad I’m disappointed. Film can be good, can be fun and thought-provoking and exciting. Every film could be good. But instead we get millions of dollars spent on something that nobody, certainly not the cast or the crew, really cares about — except the brainwashed suckers who rush in here when some other site tells them that their precious film has got a less-than-perfect review.)
Oh, but this film is Art. With a capital A. Everybody who worked on it cared about it. Sometimes, that makes the whole situation worse.
Oh no!
“Species” in Scotland?
(Haven’t been able to play the trailer yet due to technical issues.)
“Every film could be good.” Impossible. As Theodore Sturgeon once famously said, “Yes, 90% of SF is crap….but, then, 90% of everything is crap.” Heaven and Hell cannot exist without the other.
A possibility cannot be impossible.
Was it Sturgeon who said the 90% thing? I thought it was Harlan Ellison – either way, it is hardly a factual statement. Bringing theology into it elevates the discussion to even more peculiar places…..
I meant it less as theology than saying that it is difficult to say something is good or bad without having something to compare it to. I met Sturgeon in the ’70s when he was a guest at our convention and he said it.
I gotta write that down. I always associate the really grumpy aphorismy stuff with Ellison. LOL!
But any film *could* be part of the not-crap 90 percent.
I read the book this weekend and plan to see the film as a result. (Slight spoilers ahead.)
The book is not erotic (but it is physical). It’s not particularly horrific – any more than factory farming is horrific, and that’s kind of the point: what cruelty do you accommodate, whose misogyny do you overlook and who gets to be called “human”? I hope that the film is as bleak as the book.