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biast | by maryann johanson

from Facebook: this has happened before, it will happen again


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  • Bluejay

    A smart, ultra-prepared woman going up against a know-nothing blowhard? Yes, this HAS happened before, and sometimes with favorable results. :-)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JhqMsxH9-g

  • Danielm80

    Speaking of which, if you need me, I’m going to be watching the Bartlet-Ritchie debate non-stop until early November.

  • Bluejay

    What about the Santos-Vinick debate?

  • Danielm80

    I firmly believe that the show went off the air at the end of season four, when Sorkin left the series.

  • Kathy_A

    I hated Seasons 4 and 5, too, but you really should check out seasons 6 and 7. They divvy up the time between Bartlet’s White House and the Vinick and Santos campaigns pretty equally. I grew to really love a lot of the new campaign workers on both sides (Stephen Root and Patricia Richardson played wonderfully supportive advisors to Alan Alda’s Vinick).

  • Danielm80

    I actually did watch one or two episodes from the final season, and enjoyed them, but they didn’t feel like The West Wing to me.

  • Bluejay

    The Santos-Vinick story is worth watching. Alan Alda played a smart, formidable, honorable, and decent Republican politician — I’m really surprised he wasn’t flooded with offers afterwards to play more fantasy characters.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFwj6jUxArY

  • Danielm80

    He’s been working really steadily since he appeared on The West Wing, though maybe not as a “fantasy” character. (I’m not 100% sure how you’re defining the term.) His role on Horace and Pete almost certainly doesn’t qualify, but it may put him in even higher demand.
    And–if nothing else–I’ll look up Santos-Vinick clips on YouTube.

  • Jurgan

    I considered Vinnick a much more interesting antagonist than the obvious George W. Bush clone Ritchie. Sorkin was running out of steam by the fourth season and made some bad decisions, including focusing way too much on the characters’ personal lives. The nadir was The Long Goodbye, a whole episode of CJ in the woods watching her dad deal with Alzheimer’s. It got worse after Sorkin left for a while, but I’d say by midway through season 5 it had found its feet again.

  • Danielm80

    Wasn’t that the episode written by Jon Robin Baitz? It was really dull, but I can’t blame Sorkin for hiring a Pulitzer finalist.

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