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curated: “how can smug, stale Doctor Who get back to its glory days?”

I worry about this too…


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  • RogerBW

    I wonder whether the trick may be: don’t let fans be in charge.

    The old show was made by people who were not fans, who did a good job because they were professionals. When a fan got access to the producer, things went badly askew.

    The new show is made by people who grew up as fans, who want to work on Who more than they want to do anything else. And I think they tend, in the parade of “wouldn’t it be cool if”, to forget how it looks to someone who isn’t an uncritical enthusiast for anything with the Doctor Who label on it.

  • Bluejay

    I wonder whether the trick may be: “don’t let fans be in charge”.

    I don’t think it’s that simple. NOT being a fan could just as easily lead to storytelling decisions that betray the spirit of the original. Being a fan doesn’t automatically mean being an uncritical enthusiast, and it’s the latter you have to watch out for.

  • RogerBW

    I’m sure it’s not that simple, but it seems like a good initial guide.
    Yes, I’ve read that extract from the series bible of what eventually became the TVM…

  • Danielm80

    My solution would be term limits for the showrunners. They seem to burn out after a season or two. If they were restricted to just one story arc, they could tell one magnificent story and then—this part is important—go away.

  • Tonio Kruger

    Blaming Peter Capaldi’s age for the show’s decline seems rather unsporting, After all, Jon Pertwee managed to become one of the old show’s most popular Doctors despite his gray hair and the fact that he was introduced at a time when youthful heroes were all the rage. So the current writing staff’s seeming inability to do much imaginatively with a character Capaldi’s age is hardly Capaldi’s fault.

    For that matter, blaming the show’s schedule seems off too. After all, Sherlock had far shorter seasons than DW and yet it still managed to implode.

  • Owen1120

    Did anyone watch it? Thoughts?
    I liked it a lot, especially Pearl Mackie’s energy and the episode’s lack of standard Moffat problems- shoehorned emotion, too many mysteries, and women getting the short end of the stick.

  • Danielm80

    To me, it felt like the first three-quarters of a very entertaining episode. There were too many unanswered questions about the Girl with a Star in Her Eye, and instead of making me eager to see the rest of the season, they made me feel that Moffat hadn’t written a proper ending. Pearl Mackie does bring an energy to the show that’s been missing for a while, however, and Capaldi seems to love working with her. I could see it onscreen. I already like her better than several of the previous companions.

  • Owen1120

    I already sort of forgot about the star-eye part, so that bit was a bit of a mess.

  • Dent

    I think the series started to really die after Demons Run in season 6. Up to that point they were sticking to the format. The Doctor and companion(s) “land” themselves into a conflict. They help a group of people until the mystery about mysterious force x is revealed. Then the Doctor and companion(s) solve the conflict. After that point the format changed to the Doctor being a badass space warrior and stopping evil evil bad baddies.

  • Tonio Kruger

    There were too many unanswered questions about the Girl with a Star in Her Eye, and instead of making me eager to see the rest of the season, they made me feel that Moffat hadn’t written a proper ending.

    Perhaps that eye sequence was inspired by this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FpLgiuv9mU

    But seriously, folks…

  • Tonio Kruger

    Perhaps I’m a bit biased because I have more than a few dark-skinned relatives but I like the new companion Bill and the way she has been getting along with the Doctor. I’m not that crazy about Matt Lucas’s character but fortunately he doesn’t get that much air time.

    I am rather surprised that one element of Bill’s personality has provoked so little commentary. But considering the many silly things that have been said about a similar element in a recent Disney film, that’s probably a good thing, right?

  • bronxbee

    i have several dark skinned relatives as well, so there’s nothing there that bothered me. we’ve had mickey smith, and clara’s boyfriend, and other “dark skinned” characters in many episodes. no, what bothers me is the complete change of the Doctor’s character from a wanderer who stumbles into situtations where he can help (either by accident or “directed” by the TARDIS) into an almost godlike figure or universal myth — something the Doctor originally (for the first 30 actively recorded years at least) would have been horrified about. that, and the ridiculous and confusing story lines that never make sense.

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