curated: Brie Larson wants more diverse film critics; white dudes unhappy

See the replies to this tweet for many examples of white dudes incensed (yet again) to learn that their perspectives are not the universal neutral default, and aren’t automatically impressive or authoritative.

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Bluejay
Bluejay
Fri, Jun 15, 2018 3:30am

Oh Captain my Captain!

Danielm80
Danielm80
reply to  Bluejay
Fri, Jun 15, 2018 12:24pm

You know the person who always ends up sitting in the row behind you in the movie theatre and can’t follow the plot, the person who keeps whispering, “Who is that guy? Why is he going in that building?” Much too often, I am that person.

I’ve read the Whitman poem. I’ve seen the terrible Robin Williams movie. I don’t see the connection to this article. Can you help me out?

Bluejay
Bluejay
reply to  Danielm80
Fri, Jun 15, 2018 12:36pm
Tonio Kruger
Tonio Kruger
Fri, Jun 15, 2018 4:29pm

I can’t help but wonder what women like Jennifer Beals and Rashida Jones think about the movie.

Bluejay
Bluejay
reply to  Tonio Kruger
Fri, Jun 15, 2018 6:06pm

What do you mean? Why those two names in particular, and what do they have to do with A Wrinkle in Time?

Beals loved it, fyi.

https://twitter.com/jenniferbeals/status/972971147456163840

Tonio Kruger
Tonio Kruger
reply to  Bluejay
Fri, Jun 15, 2018 6:27pm

Ms. Larson’s quote in full suggests that she is more interested in what a biracial girl thinks about the movie than what a “70-year-old white dude” thinks about it.

Ms. Beals and Ms. Jones, of course, are biracial which means that they are obviously more apt to have first-hand knowledge of what biracial girls would like to see than either Ms. Larson or your average 70-year-old white dude.

Btw, I’m glad Ms. Beals liked the movie.

Bluejay
Bluejay
reply to  Tonio Kruger
Fri, Jun 15, 2018 7:33pm

Okay, sure. But Beals and Jones aren’t professional critics. I’m sure it would benefit us to hear from more non-white, non-male CRITICS as well.

I don’t know how many identify as biracial, but here’s a list of female critics of color who would probably appreciate more visibility.

https://blackgirlnerds.com/film-criticism-needs-embrace-women-color/

h
h
Tue, Feb 26, 2019 7:18pm

Comic book movies suck i’d had enough after spiderman 2002ish fuck em

Bluejay
Bluejay
reply to  h
Tue, Feb 26, 2019 10:44pm

Thanks for your thoughtful input. And that’s cool, there are other films you can see. Have you tried If Beale Street Could Talk or RBG or Roma? I’m sure one of those would be right up your alley.

Karen Nielsen
Karen Nielsen
Wed, Feb 27, 2019 4:07am

True diversity isn’t diversity of color; it’s diversity of ideas. Your politics clearly aligns with Brie’s and the rest of the mainstream media’s; intolerance in its essence manifests itself in people like you too. Brie Larson doesn’t want diversity; she wants an ECHO CHAMBER, and clearly; so do you. There is not one law banning minorities from entering the film/journalism (of film) industry. Perhaps because America is mostly white and middle-class; people tend have opportunities to enter jobs in the arts; whereas minorities tend towards more pragmatic work. Writing isn’t always lucrative — most of the time it isn’t (which is why so many writers tend to think the same; demand for welfare, subsidies, and protection; tell me again how you’re being oppressed?).

MaryAnn Johanson
reply to  Karen Nielsen
Wed, Feb 27, 2019 8:47am

Wait. You seriously believe that expanding the voices talking about film is creating an “echo chamber”? And that what we have now — a film community that is overwhelmingly dominated by white men — is NOT an echo chamber?

That is some truly upside-down shit.

There is not one law banning minorities from entering the film/journalism (of film) industry.

No one ever said that there was. Try educating yourself on how the world actually works for most people. In other words: Get out of your echo chamber.

whereas minorities tend towards more pragmatic work

Holy shit. I think we found the racist equivalent of the sexist “Women just naturally gravitate to low-paying jobs.”

Writing isn’t always lucrative — most of the time it isn’t

You’re THISCLOSE to getting it. Keep working at it!

Danielm80
Danielm80
reply to  MaryAnn Johanson
Wed, Feb 27, 2019 10:51am

Is Karen Nielsen a sock puppet for Fred Nielsen, who was banned a few days ago for comments on the same topic? That would be a real echo chamber.

MaryAnn Johanson
reply to  Danielm80
Wed, Feb 27, 2019 5:25pm

Difficult to tell, but sock puppet “she” certainly is.

Bluejay
Bluejay
reply to  MaryAnn Johanson
Wed, Feb 27, 2019 5:50pm

Same confrontational style, same obsession with Brie Larson, same unprompted theories on demographic job preferences (“Statistically speaking, women would much rather go into social work than the arts”). Even same choice of user surname — how lazy can he get?

It’s Fred, he can’t help himself. Ah well, it just means “Karen” will eventually get “herself” banned for the same crap.

Danielm80
Danielm80
reply to  Bluejay
Wed, Feb 27, 2019 6:25pm

Last week, three right-wingers got themselves banned in rapid succession, by flooding the site with repetitive, insulting comments. It seemed like a win-win situation to me: We get a break from their illogical arguments, and they get to brag that SJWs just can’t handle the truth. But Fred seems to have a different goal in mind. He may be trying to prove that we’re willing to tolerate his bullshit arguments if they come from a woman. Of course, if that’s what he’s going for, it’s very simple to counter his argument. Just ban him again right away.

Bluejay
Bluejay
reply to  Danielm80
Wed, Feb 27, 2019 6:40pm

MaryAnn has banned women (or commenters claiming to be women) who spout hostile bullshit arguments before. It’s not the gender, it’s the hostility and bullshit. Though I suspect a lot of the trolls claiming to be women are actually men.

Danielm80
Danielm80
reply to  Bluejay
Wed, Feb 27, 2019 6:58pm

Well, yeah, “Kate Zhane” was banned just last week, and I’m still recovering from the “Cupcakes” debacle years later. I was just amused by Fred’s rapid transition.

I may be totally wrong about Karen’s motivation, of course, but I suspect she’s about to add her name to the long, long list of women banned from the site (if she hasn’t already). Fred has already added his name to the long, long list of men.

Bluejay
Bluejay
reply to  Karen Nielsen
Wed, Feb 27, 2019 12:43pm

Nice try, Fred.