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Stacy Livitsanis
Stacy Livitsanis
Wed, Jun 06, 2018 6:11am

Ooh, just a wild stab in the dark here, but do you think if Rose Tico had been super ultra skinny and presented blatantly for the male gaze in revealing, sexualising clothing as merely a decoration to ogle that this abhorrent abuse would not be happening?

I think this piece was already linked in a previous post here, but it’s worth looking at again, particularly for the sections on Rose:

https://bittergertrude.com/2018/01/04/why-so-many-men-hate-the-last-jedi-but-cant-agree-on-why/

Here’s a detail from the doco on The Last Jedi blu-ray: Rian Johnson is talking to the costume designer about Rose Tico and he refers to her as initially wearing an “unflattering” boiler suit, but that later on at the casino she’ll be in formal wear, and “we can have some fun”. Clearly that idea changed, and I’m so glad it did.

Dr. Rocketscience
Dr. Rocketscience
reply to  Stacy Livitsanis
Wed, Jun 06, 2018 6:03pm

Not really. They drove Daisy Ridley off of social media for a time as well. These fuckers would have attacked Carrie Fisher. (Remember, Carrie in the 1970s had more fucks to give than Carrie in the 2010s, so it might have worked.)

Stacy Livitsanis
Stacy Livitsanis
reply to  Dr. Rocketscience
Thu, Jun 07, 2018 4:39am

You’re right. I keep forgetting how absurd these alleged fans are, and am looking for consistency and rationales that aren’t there. It’s not that Rose wasn’t a specific thing, it’s that she was there at all. For such hateful jackasses, ANY amount of representation is too much. A movie with a clear majority of male characters blasted as propaganda for the ‘fempire’ (saw that phrase on a YouTube thumbnail and it still makes me laugh).

MaryAnn Johanson
reply to  Stacy Livitsanis
Thu, Jun 07, 2018 1:05pm

it’s that she was there at all.

And also that how she was presented did not cater to a male gaze.

Bluejay
Bluejay
Wed, Jun 06, 2018 3:13pm

Toxic “fans” are the worst. And they never seem to realize that they’re betraying the ideals of the very franchise they profess to love. “Star Wars has been ruined by SJW’s who are just concerned about minority representation and women’s rights. Don’t they realize Star Wars is about resisting a monolithic Empire and fighting oppression?!”