[major spoilers for The Visit; spoiler-free review here]
You know what would have been a surprising twist for M. Night Shyamalan’s latest film, The Visit? If it didn’t have a twist. But Shyamalan seems constitutionally incapable of making a movie that doesn’t want to surprise us with a twist. This is the twist of The Visit: about three-quarters of the way through the film, teen Becca (Olivia DeJonge) and her preteen brother, Tyler, (Ed Oxenbould) discover that the grandparents they are visiting, Nana (Deanna Dunagan) and Pop Pop (Peter McRobbie), aren’t really their grandparents. Nana and Pop Pop are escaped mental patients who murdered their real grandparents and have taken over their lives. And now Pop Pop is trying to murder Becca and Tyler. Why? Who knows? Except he’s a mental patient, and as we all know, crazy people are violent.
Apparently this is meant to harness our fear of old people, which I didn’t realize was a thing. I know many people are afraid of getting old, and of all the issues that accompany old age (going senile, losing people we love, etc). But I didn’t realize that anyone was actually afraid of old people. I’m still not sure that anyone is.
But never mind. That’s not the problem. Some of my fellow critics have seen an offensive “elder shaming” in The Visit, but I don’t see that, either. What bothers me is that the twist — “Those aren’t your grandparents!” — simply doesn’t work. For two reasons:
1) The fake grandparents escaped from a facility where the real grandparents worked as counselors. A couple of their coworkers from the hospital come around the house to check on the real grandparents, worried that they haven’t shown up for their counseling sessions, so clearly, the real grandparents have been missed. (The coworkers manage to miss seeing the fake grandparents and speak only to the kids, so no one is clued it to their switcheroo.) But obviously the fake grandparents must have been missed from the hospital, too — someone must have noticed that two patients, at least one of whom must have a history of violence, are also missing. Even the world’s dumbest police force would at least wonder if there was two and two to be put together, and come around to investigate. The grandparents’ house is remote, but the notion that no one would have noticed that the escaped patients are now living in the home of two of their counselors is unlikely.
But even if we accept No. 1 as potentially excusable, this is the big failing of the story that cannot be explained away:
2) The fact that Becca and Tyler don’t recognize that their “grandparents” are not their grandparents is supposed to be explained by the fact that the kids have never met them before. Their mom (Kathryn Hahn) was estranged from her parents before the kids were born, and she only reconnected with them just before the kids go off for a visit. And we’re told that the kids had to lobby for Mom to let them go, the implication being that the kids wanted to give their single mother a break to go off on a cruise with her boyfriend. There obviously was some cajoling and ganging up on the part of the real grandparents and the kids to get Mom to give the okay for the trip. Skype plays a huge part in this story: the kids Skype regularly with Mom while they are at the grandparents and she is on her cruise. (Nana “accidentally” damaged the camera on Becca’s laptop, so Mom can’t see the fake grandparents. Although I don’t recall a scene in which the fake grandparents are ever present for a Skype call.) It is absolutely inconceivable that, over the course of the campaigning for the kids to go visit their grandparents, there was never a Skype call with the kids, their grandparents, and Mom all on the line. It’s inconceivable, even if there had been no campaigning, that Mom, before sending her children off to meet people they had never met before, didn’t introduce her parents to her children. We know the real grandparents were Internet savvy: they have a Web site for their counseling work, and they have hardwired Ethernet in their house (the kids plug their gadgets right into the wall to connect to their Internet access).
Maybe in the era before high-speed Internet and video phone calls, this “twist” could have worked. But it doesn’t today. And off the top of my head I can come up with at least half a dozen other “twists” that don’t require this level of implausibility. (One: maybe Mom sent them to her parents — and it was really the real grandparents, not scary replacements — for some nefarious reason, like to be indoctrinated into some scary family supernatural shit that she had run away from but recently had a change of heart about and now wants her kids in on the tradition.) It’s almost like Shyamalan simply doesn’t care about telling a cohesive story at all.
The twist is the point. Who watches even The Sixth Sense multiple times? OK, maybe once more when you know what’s going on to appreciate how it was done, but after that?
I watched it like 7 times, though.
I do. I laugh at myslef but I admit it. I love haley joel osments performance so much , I can watch him over and over. Bruce Willis too. Sure I know the ending. Reruns of I love lucy are still on and I warch that too. :)
I absolutely understand your logic, however, an Ethernet connection and having some sort of online presence (which from what i recall was simply an immense amount of praise in the form of reviews for their counseling), doesn’t necessarily mean the grandparents were savvy enough for Skype calls. It was evident that both the mother and grandparents didn’t want to see each other, be it in person or via video chat. The likely, yet frankly still far fetched sole means of communication was via a home phone from the grandparents to the kids.
The house was the same one the mother grew up in. Which means the parents had the hardwired Ethernet installed themselves (there was no Internet when Kathryn Hahn was a kid). Which means there had to be a reason for her parents to do that. And with the kids and the grandparents so excited to see one another, why *wouldn’t* they Skype?
For the movie to exist as it does requires a long unbroken chain of people behaving in ways that don’t make sense.
when i met my grandparents late in my teens i never skyped them. Nor did I look them up on facebook. I just assumed they were old and I wanted to stay traditional out of respect. For reality to exist it also requires a chain of events that dont make sense until they are the only sense one can make……
Exactly how I felt at the end of the movie, I mean I at leas expected that the grandparents were possessed or something, close to what you mentioned in the article. The ending was a suprise, but in a good. It was a complete let down. Although 3/4 of the movie was scary and it does keep you on the edge of your seats!
You are absolutely right that the movie has major plot holes. However, THE VISIT was a movie made by Shyamalan alone without any consultation. If this had been a studio film many script notes and consultants would have smoothed out the rough edges. I think we forget that most films we see are assembled by a committee of executives, the director, and three or more screenwriters.
As for the Skype problem, I think you have to remember how much technology has moved in the last few years. The movie was filmed a year and a half ago, probably written over two years ago and in 2012 or so the Skype using population was much smaller, and even today it is pretty small among the over 60 crowd.
They did notice that the psych patients were missing. When the visitors coming to check on the real grandparents mentioned the “gossip” going on at the hospital.
Missing patients is not “gossip.” It’s a police matter. Where were the cops?
No kidding! Especially a murderous one.
There was no twist in “The Last Airbender”. Just a lot of episode plots mashed together.
1.) They do come check on them. Two people come on two separate occasions. If you went to visit someone you only worked with every other week or so and their apprehensive grandchild opened the door to tell you they were occupied at the moment, any rational person would assume that grandchildren knew what their grandparents looked like. The children weren’t upset at the time so no alarm was raised. The doctor would think the volunteers were fine and the mental patients tried to get as far away from that place as they could.
2.) The mother makes a point of saying she had as little contact with her parents as possible, and if you are going to try and get in contact with the daughter you haven’t seen in 15 years, you don’t Skype her. You call her. On the telephone. Their entire interaction could have been done over the phone. PLUS the laptop was the granddaughters for editing her film. The fake grandparents probably tossed any picture laden laptop that belonged to the real grandparents WITH the real grandparents in that dumpster. That’s just covering your tracks.
Ok I can see all your points, but what in the world kept them at that house when mom tells the that they are fake.. The “grandParents” are in the back yard, Me and my brother are running out the front door ASAP.. why would any of you stray for??
Especially when they establish the kids are “intelligent” lol! My question is why did it take what seemed like hours for the police to finally arrive? Was Barney Fife at the wheel?
I googled this movie because I wanted to know if I was truly wasting my time watching this (as I was suspecting), and was near the end (while the kids were being attacked by the fake grandparents). Curiously, the mother arrives AFTER DARK with the police (she lives hours away by car, so… the police waited for the mother to get there? Makes a LOT of sense). (sarcasm)
It would seem Shymalan phoned this idea to a transcriber and then used the script without re-reading it. Come to think of it, have we heard about Shymalan recently? Maybe he is locked in a basement in an extremely remote cabin somewhere and a crazed fan is responsible for this movie. Now THAT is a great movie idea!
His new movie opens in January.
They stay for the same reason Malcom and Anna Crowe stand there when this naked guy is in their bathroom. They are dumb. :) I known people freeze but cmon . I can see scared kids getting trapped but not Crowe shouldve grabbed his wife and run out!
The ending of this movie revealed the estrangement was over a BITCH-SLAP FIGHT? Fifteen years? ugh, there’s 94 minutes I’ll never get back…
I agree
I don’t think you paid enough attention on the movie. We are told – at some point, I can’t recall when – that the “crazy grandparents” talked to the “real grandparents” and they told them their grandchildren were coming for a visit. So, we can infer that Mom talked to the real grandparents (probably without webcam) and organized the trip. After that, the real Nana told the crazy people about this “dream come true”. Then, the crazy old people (who already killed their own grandson) take their palces. Anyway, great movies like this one makes us think a lot to understand the whole picture.
In what ways did this movie make you “think a lot”?
I agree with the comment that the mom would not have been so estranged with her parents for 15 years over a fight, since she has a loving relationship with her own kids and the grandparents are well regarded decent people. Why would they stay so mad for so long? And then she sends her kids there after 15 years but doesn’t ask to say hello to them on the phone while they are visiting? It’s like Coles mom who is a loving mother yet misses every single interaction he has with the ghosts! !! Shamalyans parents must have been nuts. He gets his ideas from his own childhood maybe? Lol. I loved the sixth sense. ..I can watch it over and over because of Haley Joel Osments incredible acting.
I want to add that in both movies the father cruelly abandons his kids. I wonder if that happened to Shamalyan in real life as well. Mom’s are a little lax even though they are loving and dad disappears and drops his sweet kids like a hot potato.
The happening just happened to be on today and I see the pattern of crazy old people here too. The old woman in the rural house, Betty Buckley, was nuts before the happening got there. Maybe he had a cuckoo or depressed grandmother too. Lol. Now we gotta look at his relationship with the elderly. He’ll be one some day. Oooohh.
Hmmm. Well for number 2, the computer was Becca’s, so that doesn’t necessarily mean that they would have definitely had a Skype session prior to the proverbial “Visit”. It doesn’t show that the fake or real grandparents had a computer at all, except for the reference to an email from them in the beginning, which could have been sent prior to the fake grandparents leaving the hospital, killing the real grandparents, and setting up shop in the house. As for phone calls, it was covered that they didn’t have cell service while at the house and judging by hospital colleagues coming by rather than calling suggests that perhaps there was no phone at all – which would explain why there weren’t any calls prior to.
Number 1 is a good point though. Pretty far fetch that no one would notice the fake grandparents missing from the hospital. However, i always look too far into things and sometimes make plots that maybe aren’t there haha but i sensed something far more paranormal and/or supernatural about the fake grandparents and the people that visited to check on the real ones.
1) why did the ticket taker on the train AND the guy who came to the house from the hospital have the same reaction to the camera? Both men quoted Shakespeare (train guy Richard II, hospital guy Macbeth)
2) why the strange physical abilities and ailments of the grandparents? The galloping under the house, the vomiting, the diapers…
3) the bizarre story about the entities that live in the lake from another planet that live in the lake? The staring at the well? “The white thing running around with yellow eyes”.
Although the twist explained part of the story…I think there was more to it that was never touched – on purpose. Perhaps we were watching some sort of foreign entity taking over the bodies of the fake grandparents and people in this town, including the fake grandparents? An homage to such themes as Invasion of the Body Snatchers? What about the “Hansel and Gretel”-ish crawling into the oven? Anyone seen a twilight zone episode where the aliens bring a book called “how to serve man”, and it turned out to be a cookbook for eating humans? I mean maybe I’m looking to far into it – but I just think there is more to the story that simply some mentally ill geriatrics escaping a hospital.
The real issue was the shitty performances from the kid actors Hahahaha
My question is totally unrelated to everyone else’s, apparently. At the end of the movie, when Becca is locked upstairs with the crazy old lady and Tyler remains downstairs, why does he just stand there? The old man walks away to the other side of the kitchen, and Tyler literally just stands in the same place for probably two minutes straight. He could have just run out the door. Why did he just stand there like an idiot for basically the entire final 10 minutes of the movie? Am I missing something?
It’s been too long for me to recall details like this. Sorry!
you clearly never saw any details. All scenes have a great explanation. Its very artistic. Ive seen this movie about 17 times. I learn or see something new everytime. The story is very cohesive.
The kid freezes when under a lot of pressure, as demonstrated by the story he tells about freezing at the big moment playing peewee football (which he feels may be why dad left them).
Most of M. Night’s films DO NOT have a twist. And tons of other films do.
Almost all of his films have a twist!
i just saw this movie…why didn’t the mom show her kids pics of their grandparents? how does a parent just send off the children without showing how their grandparents looked like? yea, I get that the mom doesn’t want anything to do with her parent but….come on now…the mom could’ve got a pic of them if she didn’t have a pic…didn’t all this come about from the internet…
and another thing…their really going to keep recording while their lives are in danger…wow, at their age I think commonsense of getting away from lunatics are fully intact…
Point 1: Those doctor/neighbor didn’t know this is the kids first time to see their grandparents, so during the doctor stop by, he had confirmed with kids that the grandparents went out for walking surely he won’t doubt on it. Who would expected? Right?
Point 2: the skype call all the time doing very quietly, and also mother always refuse to see her parents again because she feel ashamed. Also the nana was suddenly appeared in the windows, she is old and sight problem (remember he complain everywhere is dark? She might can’t see things clear obviously)
I liked it!! But after being explained I feel more stupid.
I still don’t get how G-ma scooted around on all fours or how she did projectile vomiting.
I mean there were some noticable plot holes but I still loved the storyline. The fact that those two people turned out not to be their actually grandparents totally caught me off guard. I loved that twist. It worked for me because the mom was not talking to her parents and never asked to speaked to them even after learning her kids reached them “safely”.
The grandparents and fake grandparents looked very similar. M. Night kind of teases us the spoiler before game night via showing a photo of both “grandparents”.
It just doesn’t work to many loop holes plus. At the end the Mom tells kids(which was in the afternoon this took place):”Hey get your punk asses outta there cause those ain’t yo grand PopPop!”…….A few hours later kids are still there talking about how to navigate the situation. At no time either said let’s go outside and just book it! 🤦🏽♂️only white child would stay staring at the ceiling