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Danielm80
Danielm80
Tue, Dec 13, 2016 12:48pm

And here’s a debate about color and cinematography in Marvel movies:

http://nofilmschool.com/2016/11/heres-whats-wrong-with-why-do-marvel-movies-look-kind-of-ugly

Dr. Rocketscience
Dr. Rocketscience
reply to  Danielm80
Tue, Dec 13, 2016 8:13pm

I personally love that essay for the love it gives Snyder’s DC work. But I’m a fanboi like that. >.>

Stacy Livitsanis
Stacy Livitsanis
Tue, Dec 13, 2016 1:24pm

My first, second, third, up to fiftieth albums bought were all film soundtracks, and I’ve been exasperatedly yelling at my friends for years about how so few modern film scores have any distinctive, memorable melodies. Glad some people are noticing. The wall of bland mediocre sound smothers everything in these films, leaving no room for honest feelings.

Quick, remember the music in the scene in The Good the Bad and the Ugly where Tuco runs through the cemetery? Theme from The Godfather? Indiana Jones? Has a Marvel movie ever had a moment like in The Empire Strikes Back where the Imperial March is introduced? It’s less than a minute but the music is given due prominence and there’s no dialogue.

Not every film has to have music that leaves you humming it as you walk out of the theatre, obviously, but the trend here is undeniable.

The last score I remember with really grand sweeping adventurous melodies, for a film I didn’t like much, was How to Train Your Dragon 2. But even there, I just listen to the score and forget about the film.

Bluejay
Bluejay
reply to  Stacy Livitsanis
Tue, Dec 13, 2016 2:11pm

Has a Marvel movie ever had a moment like in The Empire Strikes Back where the Imperial March is introduced?

Well, I think the Avengers theme is pretty memorable, and tends to show up in iconic moments like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlQ_thbFtDA&t=60s

I also love the Captain America theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7TEvhd90JA

But apart from these, yeah, memorable music hasn’t been Marvel’s strong suit.

Danielm80
Danielm80
reply to  Bluejay
Tue, Dec 13, 2016 3:06pm

I do remember the Doctor Strange theme, but only because it’s the theme from Sherlock, almost note for note. Maybe that’s supposed to be an in-joke for Benedict Cumberbatch.

Dr. Rocketscience
Dr. Rocketscience
reply to  Bluejay
Tue, Dec 13, 2016 8:11pm

I was also going to say that the theme from Avengers isn’t bad. I’ve played the Captain America March ( https://youtu.be/qrXwAeJ87Bk ), which is quite nice. But they’re not remotely as memorable as a Williams theme, or even most of Silvestri’s work, like Back to the Future. And they’re not well used. Avengers theme seldom forms any kind of motif on its own, and really Cap is the only one with his own leitmotif, though I only specifically remember it being used in his cameo in Thor 2.

It’s been downhill in just the ways Tony Zhou describes without Silvestri.

LaSargenta
LaSargenta
reply to  Dr. Rocketscience
Wed, Dec 14, 2016 12:45am

Apologies in advance. No sarcasm, really.

When I heard that, I thought it belonged to a movie about covered wagons with Randolph Scott.

>.<

Dr. Rocketscience
Dr. Rocketscience
reply to  LaSargenta
Wed, Dec 14, 2016 3:37am

Well that’s kind of the point, isn’t it? The march, and the movie. It’s a throwback.

It’s fun to play, though. :D

Oldwen1120 [INACTIVE}
Oldwen1120 [INACTIVE}
reply to  Bluejay
Tue, Dec 13, 2016 8:18pm

Its TV themes are quite memorable, but then again, they play every episode.

LaSargenta
LaSargenta
reply to  Oldwen1120 [INACTIVE}
Wed, Dec 14, 2016 12:42am

Tremé. Yes.

Lie To Me, only because I kept expecting to have it turn into a Tears For Fears song.

Luke Cage’s theme is great.

But…

Honestly, I’m having trouble remembering any movie soundtrack recently.

Jonathan Roth
Jonathan Roth
reply to  Bluejay
Tue, Dec 13, 2016 9:00pm

The avengers theme is the only one I can readily remember and hum.

Dr. Rocketscience
Dr. Rocketscience
reply to  Stacy Livitsanis
Tue, Dec 13, 2016 8:14pm

OMG, HTTYD’s score. <3

Kathy_A
Kathy_A
Tue, Dec 13, 2016 4:02pm

I think The Incredibles was the last superhero film with a memorable score.

Jonathan Roth
Jonathan Roth
Tue, Dec 13, 2016 8:54pm

Every Frame a Painting is a wonderful series, and this was a great episode.

I also suggest as a companion to this the Extra Credits episode about video game music and the important use of the melody line in creating memorable themes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKgHrz_Wv6o

Jonathan Roth
Jonathan Roth
reply to  Jonathan Roth
Tue, Dec 13, 2016 9:01pm

Just as a film related note, consider Danny Elfman’s Batman theme, versus Danny Elfman’s Spiderman theme. I’m willing to bet people here remember the first, but not the second.

bronxbee
bronxbee
Wed, Dec 14, 2016 4:33pm

Indiana Jones, Star Wars, ET, Barry Lyndon, sand even Pirates of the Carribean (which is great housecleaning music, by the way) seems to connect with an individual *character* or overall feeling of the movie, and i think that’s the weakness of all the marvel soundtracks… you hear the music but have no idea what character or scene to connect it with… i would have thought Iron Man, and certainly, Captain America, would have strong individualized themes within the soundtrack,