
I’m “biast” (con): hated the first movie
I have not read the source material
(what is this about? see my critic’s minifesto)
There’s a running “joke” — it’s unfunny, hence I must employ sarcastic quotation marks — throughout It: Chapter Two about how Bill Denbrough (James McAvoy: X-Men: Dark Phoenix, Glass) is a rich and famous and successful and acclaimed novelist whose books are adapted by big Hollywood studios and he gets to write the screenplays himself and yet also the endings of all of his novels are so legendarily shit that everyone hates them, and even Hollywood pressures him to change them for the “better” for the movies based on his books.
The many instances of This Never Happens going on here are extraordinary, but what raises this to the level of Actually Egregious is that all of this would appear — in the screenplay by Gary Dauberman (Annabelle: Creation, Annabelle), and not by Stephen King, upon whose novel this is based — to be an attempt to forestall any complaints about the ending of It: Chapter Two. Because it is somewhat different from the ending of King’s novel, which has been split into two parts, the first of which was the 2017 movie It.

Now, I haven’t read It the novel. I’m a big King fan, and while I haven’t read everything he’s written, I’ve liked or loved all of his work that I have read. But I can certainly read a synopsis of the novel, which I have, from multiple sources. Normally this is not something I would do, because a movie adaptation of a book should stand on its own, regardless of what’s in the book. And I was only moved to do this only because of the blatant efforts by this film, from its opening scene onward, seemingly to deflect any complaints about its ending.
(Did readers not like the ending of King’s novel when it was published in the 1980s? I have no idea. King himself has a cameo in this movie that suggests that he approves of the whole “the ending in the book was shit so let’s fix it” motif, so who knows.)
Anyway, such attempts are justified because — ironically! — the ending of It: Chapter Two is as shit as, it would seem, those of any of Bill’s books. I’m no purist when it comes to how closely a film should adhere to the book it’s based on, and obviously I have no investment in the It novel, never having read it, but I can see a shit ending to a movie when I see it. This one feels like it has been pulled out of someone’s ass — screenwriter Dauberman’s, I suppose — for reasons that I cannot comprehend. At least its pointless randomness does slot right into the two movies’ accidental contention that an evil spirit/alien/monster/whatever-the-fuck-Pennywise-the-clown-is-supposed-to-be would wreak arbitrary havoc on whomever she/he/it has targeted. That’s just what she/he/it does. Somehow, though, this doesn’t feel like a positive justification.
Christ, these two movies are a godawful mess, and this one is a bigger misfire than its predecessor. Everyone who defended the first movie by telling us detractors that we just had to wait for the sequel has much to answer for.

If you haven’t seen It, nothing much here will make much sense. And it still doesn’t, really, even if you have. Quick recap anyway: Back in 1989, a junior-high gang of friends who’d dubbed themselves the Losers’ Club battled Pennywise the Clown (Bill Skarsgård: Deadpool 2, Atomic Blonde), who wanted to eat their faces or something. That was 2017’s It, an unscary, unintentional pastiche of 1980s kiddie adventures (think The Goonies meets Stand by Me times Poltergeist). Now, 27 years later, they are all summoned back to their hometown of Derry, Maine — one of King’s repeated fictional locales — by Mike (Isaiah Mustafa: The Three Stooges), the only member of the Club who never left home, because Pennywise seems to be up to her/his/its old murderous tricks again. The Club had all vowed to return should their supernatural nemesis ever rear her/his/its painted face again, but this is complicated by the fact that they all had forgotten their childhoods in Derry. Worse, they’d all forgotten that they’d forgotten.
Something something something about how childhood trauma impacts the rest of one’s life, and how repressed memories are never truly repressed, etc, etc. Also later, something something something about how memories — and monsters! — whether they’re remembered or repressed, only have the power over you that you grant them. All true, to a certain degree… but Chapter Two ultimately wants to have its empowerment cake and eat it, too. Positive thinking cannot overcome all the terrors that oppress us, no matter how hard we might wish for it, or how much work we put into it. It almost beggars belief that Chapter Two posits the feel-good self-care denouement that it does. It’s almost dangerous in its suggestion that there are no real monsters, no real oppression that keeps us down.
And yet, a muddled message is the least of It: Chapter Two’s missteps. If only it were genuinely scary! But this unsupportably overlong — almost three hours! — exercise in unironically trotting out genre clichés bypasses every opportunity to acknowledge its utter obviousness, the roteness of its tropes. For here we literally run a gamut of every kind of scary-movie nonsense — a killer clown, a disorienting hall of mirrors in a carnival funhouse, an actual haunted house, a mysterious “Indian ritual,” a sea of blood, multiple eldritch spidery creatures, and more — as well as other down-to-earth terrors: abusive parents, bullying schoolkids. Yet for all of its extreme length, Chapter Two barely gives room for a truly great cast — which also features Jessica Chastain (Molly’s Game, Miss Sloane), Bill Hader (The Angry Birds Movie 2, Toy Story 4), James Ransone (Gemini, Sinister 2), Jay Ryan, and Andy Bean (Allegiant) — to do much beyond scream and gasp at what is happening around them, which plays like random scary stuff rather than horrors keyed to their specific anxieties, which we’re allegedly meant to see as the case.

This is a movie that attempts, say, via an occasionally overbearing score, to make ominous a couple of guys climbing stairs in a place that even the movie concedes isn’t dangerous. It deploys, in places, weird and confusing edits that attempt to create a sense of urgency but instantly peter out. It has characters running around, arriving in different places for no reason other than plot necessity. It is abusive itself, even as it wants to condemn abuse: naked old women are nothing but scary; fat women are objects of ridicule, but a fat boy deserves our sympathy. (Do the male filmmakers not see sexism as abusive?) It’s all preposterously dated, too: Chapter Two insists that homophobic violence is bad (as it is), but also that being gay is a “dirty secret.” (This may be an artifact of the original 1980s setting of this second half of the story, the grownup half, but then just delete it for this 2010s-set adaptation. This “dirty secret” nonsense adds nothing here.) There’s little sense of a small town under siege, or even any kind of basic civic authenticity at all: All the returnees are staying at a Derry B&B that announces “no vacancy,” and yet the place seems otherwise abandoned. And if there’s any potential for making red balloons chilling, director Andy Muschietti (Mama) has not found it.
The only terrifying thing here is how tedious It: Chapter Two is, and what a trial it is to sit through it.
see also:
• It movie review: a series of unfortunate events


















To answer your question about whether readers disliked the ending of the book: I read the book and really liked it, up to the end. I though the big ending sequence was bad.
Are you referring to the controversial bonding sequence?
As I recall, that scene was much criticized when comments were made about the first It movie. Rightly so, too.
Yes, that was what I considered pretty much of a dumb way to end a book that was very good up until that point.
The preteen sex orgy would’ve been in the first movie, though, right? Although I’m certain, even though I haven’t seen either movie, that they left that part out.
I read the book back in the 1980s and found the ending extremely disappointing: It had zero imagination and became the prime example for the shitty endings of Stephen King novels. (The only ending that he did not blow was in THE MIST, simply because that story is open-ended.)
How does a reviewer who claims to love King never have read one of the best novels he has ever written ? It , Robert McCammon’s Boy’s Life , and Dan Simmons’ Summer of Night are the top trilogy of coming of age /horror novels .I haven’t seen the movie yet , but this review is total BS ! Sounds like a bratty millennial complaining about a book that was originally set in 1958 , which might as well be on Mars for her !
LOL.
Hilarious.
How would I see a movie that is not in theaters yet ? I’ve read the book more than once and own the dvds of the 90s mini-series . If you read the book once or even King’s 11/22/63 , part of which also takes place in Derry , you’d know it’s not exactly a friendly town . You would have also known that Beverly became a successful clothes designer and marries a woman abuser whom she gives a classic beat down when she leaves him . You would know that the It creature feeds on fear which is why it preys on children whose fear is greater .
Maybe It Chapter 2 is total crap , but at least understand the basic story . What I find hilarious is a review from someone who claims to be a big King fan who hasn’t read any of his books !
O2 (2015 Bingo card)
Oh, honey, I understand the basic story. But if a movie adaptation of a novel requires that you have read the book to Get It, that movie has failed.
God, you’re adorable.
Not at all what I said, but thanks for playing.
We ought to start a drinking game on this site where every time somebody tells an obvious untruth about MaryAnn in the comments section, your readers have to take a shot.
Local liquor merchants would be so pleased at the results…
I love King, but there are several of his major books that I’ve yet to read. He writes a lot, and most of his books are long. And he’s one of many writers that I really like. So even though I read a lot, it’s hard to keep up with King.
Lady, you are such a moronic feminist, it IS funny. You are all over the place and contradict yourself more than once. I love how all of the comments are just people roasting you. Get the stick out of your ass and mabye then you can get laid and calm down. Also, I wanted a review of a movie, not some cunt who has opinions about things she’s never even read.
1. Not “all the comments,” just the worthless, condescending ones
2. Anal-expulsive personality indicates an over-permissive early childhood
3. Unconscious projection of sexual frustration and anger issues
4. Failure to recognize a review that does not match own political biases
5. Ironically overlooks that the critic has seen the film and he has not
6. Believes that reading a 1400 page book is a reasonable prerequisite
Diagnosis: one man BINGO
My dude, you’re a walking stereotype. It’s none of your business where sticks are placed and who is or isn’t getting laid, and none of that has any bearing on the review. Getting laid does not magically give you shitty taste in movies (at least I think it doesn’t… uh, someone back me up on this). The only people who think that getting laid instantly makes everything perfect in the universe are people who are frustrated about not getting laid.
Watch the film. Make a logical argument and support it. Stop being a dick.
Where do I contradict myself?
Get an original fucking insult, why don’t you? What are you, 12 and just recently discovered the MRA web?
Get over your fear of women. Your life will be so much better.
And once again we are struck with the irony of someone cussing out a female film critic in order to defend a movie based on a book in which one of the main villains is an abusive and emotionally manipulative woman-beater. Kinda makes you wonder what exactly they got out of the original novel…
You sound like a clown.
I read the book and saw both the first half of this and the TV miniseries. I need to see a lot more reviews before I make up my mind to see this. As for the novels…. About a third through one, I say “Wow, this great!” Halfway through that same book, I say, “Wow, this is one of the best things I’ve ever read!” Two thirds of the way through I start to tear my hair out, and by the end I say, “Jesus! What the hell was that all about!?!”
Virtually everything you’re complaining about is from the book. You laud King (who is a shit writer and a garbage person), but sarcastically repeat “he/she/it” as if the villain is ludicrous and the movie came up with it? You mock with “an evil spirit/alien/monster/whatever-the-fuck-Pennywise-the-clown-is-supposed-to-be” while saying you like King, and that’s , his doing obviously, not the movie people’s.
Also, the message of the film is absolutely NOT that there are no real monsters, so your accusation that it’s “almost dangerous” is idiotic. The very first fucking scene is the REAL threat of dangerous, murderous homophobes (tired though that is), so clearly the message can’t be what you’ve taken from it.
Christ.
Liking an author does not equate to liking everything she writes, or to liking every part of everything she writes. I think King is a pretty good pop horror/fantasy writer, but he’s produced some real stinkers. (I’m looking at you, second half of The Dark Tower series.) So if the story’s bad bits come from the book, then the filmmakers should have changed them. (You know they can do that, right?)
Would you say I can’t call myself a King fan because I think Maximum Overdrive sucks?
Author of article said she liked King, disliked the movie, proceeded to ridicule the things that came from King as if they came from the filmmakers.
You don’t seem to have understood my point?
I wasn’t being sarcastic, nor was I saying the villain is ludicrous. The villain is just merely wildly undefined BY THE FILM in a way that doesn’t work.
Maybe it’s handled better in the book. Maybe it isn’t. I can be a big fan of King in general and not love everything he writes. I don’t know how you define fandom, but mine is not slavish or uncritical.
It’s the ENDING of the film that does that. The movie contradicts itself.
Again, folks, I never said you can’t like an author but not like ALL their stuff. What. Both of you. Just said that, again, the things you take issue with, once more, are source-material issues, and you’re acting like they’re not.
Same with the end, which neither contradicts itself nor says there are no real monsters.
You literally said I cannot be both a King fan and also ridicule something he’s written. There really isn’t any other way to read that.
But you know what? That doesn’t matter. Your characterization of my criticism doesn’t hold water. Whether or not specifics are the same in the book, my problem is with how it’s all handled onscreen. Film adaptations of good written work can be bad even if they’re “faithful.” The mediums are different. You’re saying that there’s no way for source-material stuff to be handled poorly onscreen. But of course there is.
The fuck? I literally did not, and you’re crazy, so you lose.
It is absolutely real. They beat It with will, and coming together, and facing It, and then an actual physical attack. They didn’t wake up and say it was all a dream. It killed hundreds/thousands of people, mostly CHILDREN, so saying It’s message is monsters don’t exist is mind-boggling.
But whatcha expect really? This from the woman complaining about their ridicule of a fat lady (who was controlling, neurotic and dangerous, not just “fat lol get her!”) and an old lady, suggesting the filmmakers hate womenz.
Nevermind portraying an old man as a revolting lecherous leper (and the pharmacist is gross, old men are to be feared!), a father as an abusive rapist, a husband as also an abusive rapist, a gang of MEN as abusive homophobes, another gang of men as abusive bullies who also hate homos, don’t they see how harmful this film is to men!!
The bad guy even defaults to male form, yeah but complain about the portrayal of women, it’s clearly so harmful what this movie is doing to them.
Sarcasm aside, you bring up an interesting point: Pennywise defaults to a male appearance. It made me realize that I can’t think of a single movie or book in which a female clown is portrayed as frightening or creepy. In both of these films and in Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark (a slightly better IT movie than IT), the female monsters are supposed to be scary in large part because they are old, ugly/deformed, and/or fat.
Writers rarely use the agency, thoughts, or abilities of female monsters to make them scary, instead relying primarily on their appearance. I don’t watch many horror movies, so perhaps there are counterexamples that I’m unaware of, but I think someone really should write a story about an intelligent, creepy female killer clown. I suppose Sadako and Kayako have abilities and agency to a degree, but they aren’t really malevolent in an intelligent, playful way like Pennywise. Typhoid Mary (comics) is more sexy than scary, and even Harley is more petulant and cute than frightening.
So thank you, sarcastic stranger, for making me see that even female monsters get short changed in fiction.
Your broader point is not as compelling. When all of the “heroes” in the team except for one are male, and the main villain is “male,” and many of the evil bullies, rapists, and perverts are male, it just shows that a wide spectrum of male characters are present, as is typical of most movies.
You would have a stronger argument if there were four average looking women of various builds and one fit, attractive boy in the Loser’s Club, and the only other male characters in the film were simplistically evil villains/monsters who were all fat, old, and/or ugly, and we lived in a world where the vast majority of violent bullies, rapists, and perverts were female and the social value of men was tied almost exclusively to their physical appearance.
In such a world, you might reasonably employ a single sentence in a lengthy film review to criticize the unfair and superficial treatment of the male characters. However, contrary to the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the MRA militias, we do not live in that world – quite the opposite.
Female monsters get shortchanged because men are usually always the monster. You make my point for me.
My point was that men are still almost always the everything in movies like this: monster, hero, nerd, bully, jock, geek, stoner, token minority, etc, and that even if you aren’t a SJW, simply for variety’s sake it would be cool to see a malevolently intelligent, creepy female clown terrorize a team with more than one woman on it. So we both want to see a Nicolesage monster-mash the creepy-smart glass ceiling and broaden the base (oooh double pun), the pure, and most importantly, the in between.
Despite having a by the numbers plot, Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark does have a female lead protagonist and more than one kind of female monster, and that change breathes a little life into the standard horror formula.
A lot of anti-feminists complain about women not being beautiful and good and right and innocent all the time. Again we’re in agreement: there are lots of different kinds of women. Movie buffs still rave about Misery, Audition, and The Ring movies. Maleficent is everyone’s favorite Disney villain (true intellectuals like myself favor Frollo). Keep those smart, creepy looking monstresses coming, toss in a couple more interestingly flawed women on the “good” team, and let their conflicts dictate the plot. Make Monsters Menstruate Again!*
*Caps are available in the gift shop.
Don’t be sexist! *wink*
Nicolesage?
I always preferred Cruella DeVille myself. Plus there’s something to be said for Ursula.
And I always consider myself to be the very model of a modern intellectual yet I’m not that fond of Frollo. At least not the Disney version…
I think this is just standard short-cuts by a lazy writer. Each character gets a trait to distinguish them from “generic normal person”: fat, intelligent, female. What do you mean, female people are normal? Not in his world.
That’s not remotely what I said.
Are you seriously likening a man being violent and abusive to a woman being fat? Because the fat woman who is ridiculed was not being ridiculed for being controlling but for being fat.
Yes, I know, It being a dream was an example of how the threat wouldn’t have been real, as you suggested. That didn’t happen, because It was very real. You’re bad at understanding stuff?
You’re bitching about a negative portrayal of women when there are far more negative portrayals of men. In this film, and every film.
Are you not tired of the lecherous abusive husband/father, and the homo-hating male bully? Well I guess not if someone hates men, then it’s always fresh and on point to see cardboard cutouts with penises doing the same old things.
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Do you not understand metaphor? It is defeated by the Losers simply refusing to be afraid of It anymore. Either this metaphor extends to real-life horrors as depicted the film — like homophobia and child abuse — or else there is no fucking point in depicting such things in this movie.
And these are counterbalanced — more than counterbalanced — by the positive depictions of men onscreen.
You’re the one who is bad at understanding stuff, and I am finished explaining it to you.
“It is defeated by the Losers simply refusing to be afraid of It anymore.”
Haha. Oh you.
Okay once more, they defeat It by standing up to It. That is how you beat bad guys, by standing up to them. Terrorists, spouse abusers, rapists, cancer, you beat them all by standing up to them and fighting them. You call the police, you get medical treatment, you literally rip out their heart and crush it. There is no threat you don’t beat by standing up to It.
(Hmm except maybe tornadoes.)
This had been super painful to watch.
You might want to rewrite that last sentence on the first paragraph. It didn’t quite say what you think it says.
You sound very normal and completely well adjusted, so congrats on that.
Shit sick burn.
But they haven’t read the book. All they have is what the movie presents. An adaptation isn’t tied to the book down to the word, so it’s as much the filmmakers as King who is to blame.
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They… they bullied Pennywise to death… they bullied him until he was a small clown baby and ripped his heart out. I mean, Pennywise was pure evil, and definitely deserved to die, it just felt so weird that they bullied him until he felt sad and small before killing him. I like the general idea of “standing up to your fears” but the execution of it was… odd.
And hey, if we’re gonna change the ending, they missed a MAJOR opportunity. With Richie Tozier’s fear being about his sexuality being discovered, it would’ve been amazing if he had come out to the rest of the Loser’s Club in the cave while Pennywise was in his spider form. It’s his worst fear and he thinks that it’s a “dirty secret”. Being found out is the worst thing he can imagine, and when he decides to face his fear and he tells his friends… it doesn’t phase them. Suddenly Pennywise deosn’t have as much power over him. I’m not a writer, and I have zero clue where it would go from there, but having Richie NEVER come out over the course of the movie seems to make that whole message of “standing up to your fears” weaker.
Have you seen “Ready or Not?”
I didn’t see it on your new releases page.
The UK release date is Sep 27th, so it might be a few weeks unless she caught a super early screening or watched it during vacation in the states.
I’m curious to read MA’s thoughts too – the trailer looked promising.
I have not seen it, because, as amanohyo notes, it doesn’t open here till the end of September. I’m probably going to give it a pass, though: it doesn’t appeal to me — I am SO tired of movies about being being terrorized and threatened — and I’ll be busy with London Film Festival pre-fest press screenings.
Fair enough, It’s not a brilliant film by any means. I found it kind of refreshing though. The main character doesn’t waste any time in ditching her heels and cutting her wedding dress to a reasonable length. It’s definitely not worth crowding your schedule though, it has other problems that I’m sure you’re tired of seeing.
SPOILER for the Ready or Not trailer:
Its trailer suspiciously makes it look like You’re Next II: The Honeymoon Edition. It might be better than it looks but I’m not exactly surprised that Mary Ann sounds likely to give it a pass. After all, she hated You’re Next.
And if Emilie’s line, “I don’t know what I’m doing,” isn’t a candidate for cheap and easy straight line of the year, I don’t know what is…
I saw Ready or Not about a month or so ago on cable. You didn’t miss anything, MaryAnn. It’s not the worst thing I ever saw in the horror genre but it’s not anything worth staying up late to see.
Thank you, Ms. Johanson, for another thoughtful, unstinting review. I don’t always agree with you on films (who would I be if I did? someone else), but I’ve become addicted to this site for the reviews’ intelligence and candor.
I enjoyed part one of IT — I won’t say I was scared by it, but I often lose track of what does scare me — so I will probably see this, eventually … after the crowds die down. I will honestly be going more to appreciate the effects work than anything else.
At one time, I aspired to be a horror writer. I’m still interested in what scares (and what doesn’t) … and what scares linger after the jump scares are over.
Thanks for the kind words. I would never, ever expect that anyone would agree with me all the time — that is not and never has been what film criticism (or any kind of cultural criticism) is about. It’s rather appalling that so many people seem to misunderstand that these days.
I’m not sure why anyone is threatened or rendered defensive by someone’s experience of a given work being different from their own. :/ I suppose that when I feel passionate about a film I might attempt to defend it with some of that passion … but it’s not possible to make someone else feel similarly if they simply don’t. At best it might be possible to convince another person to take another look.
I think it goes something like:
I liked this film (or I think I will like this film, based on the trailer/director/etc.)
You didn’t like this film.
There can be only one correct opinion, so you’re telling me that I’m wrong (and therefore a bad person).
I think some people believe, against all evidence, that a published review is supposed to be some sort of authoritative statement, and anyone who disagrees with it will be considered uncultured, so it puts them on the defensive.
There are also films that people connect with on a deep emotional level, so that a negative comment about the movie seems like an attack on their identity. It’s touching, in a way, when people are that moved by a film, but it’s not always healthy.
I just watched the latest Contrapoints video which argues that many young men swept up in feminist backlash movements feel lost and unsure of themselves because most of the old ideals of masculine behavior have been labeled as toxic in modern society.
Feminists have a clearly defined external enemy and conflict with toxic masculinity and the patriarchy, but young men are essentially asked to be at war with aspects of themselves. Because mainstream culture sends mixed messages about which aspects of masculinity are “good,” this internal conflict has no clear boundaries.
So, her argument goes, these men have just as much bottled up frustration and angst as modern women, but no easy external villain. Thus, they’re easily triggered by feminist thoughts as it presents something outside of themselves to rebel against in a clear-cut conflict in which they are also on the side of good, fighting an evil, illogical system.
I see Wynn’s point, but I don’t fully accept the proposition that there are no positive masculine role models to replace the old toxic ideal. There’s such a huge range of male protagonists out there that statistically some of them have to be both sufficiently masculine and reasonably non-toxic. I do agree that mainstream culture has done a poor job sending a consistent message as many popular male characters, celebrities, politicians, and athletes are lauded for traits that would be labeled toxic in alternative contexts. It’s understandable that young men asked to dissect their own personas and remove essential pieces without any clear directions might feel frustrated when, from their perspective, society provides young women a much more well-defined villainous system to struggle against.
A lot of the men who come here with chips on their shoulders seem to be people who are not comfortable with introspection, so I imagine the task of redefining their own masculinity is difficult and unpleasant. A dissenting review by a woman gives them on outlet for all those feelings of frustration and angst. As you and many others have noticed, most don’t even read the review, or if they do, they fixate on the tiny section that allows them to place themselves in conflict with MA and feminism in general. The fact that she disliked a movie that they’re looking forward to is just the surface trigger that provides them a target for their more deep-seated frustrations.
Now, I’m sure some of the hit and run Rotten Tomatoes squad are just adult assholes who have tied their identities to their objects of consumption like good little capitalists and should definitely know better, but I can empathize with the young ones who are just trying to figure out what it means to be a good man when so many toxic men (and some toxic women to be fair) are rewarded and placed on a pedestal (or in certain pale abodes). I just wish they found a more constructive and positive way to vent than telling female critics that their opinion is stupid because they need to get laid and also, what about the men? Did you ever think about the men, stupid? What about my feelings? Good reviews always think about me!! Why are you so bitter and angry and emotional!!! REEEEEEE!!!!
Anyway, it’s an interesting hypothesis. Doesn’t make gender, racial, and class power imbalances any less frustrating, but it helped me understand where some of these lost, angry folks are coming from a little better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1xxcKCGljY
No, they’re not. There’s nothing “natural” or “inherent” about toxic masculinity. It’s learned behavior, and it can be unlearned.
Mainstream culture does the same thing to women regarding femininity.
The enemy here is the exact same for men and women alike: Patriarchy. The solution is the same for men and women alike: Feminism. Feminists have been very clear that smashing the patriarchy will be freeing for men, too.